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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/3/2006 6:02:16 AM   
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>There are plenty of pros that have so much demand they can pick and choose their clients, as well as charge a premium.<

Yes I'm sure your are right. I cannot think of anything more entirely depressing than this fact.


I can see your point! its part and parcel of the fact that male subs are so unwanted and the balance is askew to a great extent. There are of course other situations that are also part and parcel such as the way some Dommes can ask for money while maintaining its still a relationship, financial Domming and others to name a few!

Imagine for example if I where a male escort (prostitute) and I could pick and choose my clients making sure I only got payed for sex by buxom pretty blonde women who payed me a premium.

This would be a sign that women in general are so not in demand that I can actually make a good living out of the pretty ones so what chance in hell would an average to below looking women stand if even the prostitutes are rejecting her!?!! (lol).

If the pretty ones have to pay for it they will more often only be able to get relationships and free play from physically unnatractive men. Its the basic premise of supply and demand.

In Russia the women outnumber the men 4:1 apparently hence many women (even very attractive ones) seek a husband abroad partly due to the fact that Russian men can afford to treat them badly. Its a basic premise of supply and demand.

Often when something happens like a Shipbuilder or minor gets the sack due to the fact they are no longer needed seeing as the company can go abroad and get cheaper labour in foriegn countries they get empathy from others. If they where to come to a site like this and explain their predicament/woes they would probably get told to 'suck it up bitch! and stop whining!'.


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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/6/2006 11:58:19 PM   
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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/7/2006 12:05:45 AM   
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>There are plenty of pros that have so much demand they can pick and choose their clients, as well as charge a premium.<

Yes I'm sure your are right. I cannot think of anything more entirely depressing than this fact.


Why is it depressing? Because you can't afford them?

They can charge a premium because their skill level is that high. The reason they are in demand is because they offer something other pros don't: They can connect with a client on a level that establishes sensual domination and a real connection with them on a level beyond just "whip by the hour."

They can connect on this level because they only select clients they feel a "groove" with and they get a lot of repeat business.

The clients feel it also, so they keep coming back.

The pro then has a waiting list of new clients, and can pick and choose.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/7/2006 1:01:20 AM   
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>There are plenty of pros that have so much demand they can pick and choose their clients, as well as charge a premium.<

Yes I'm sure your are right. I cannot think of anything more entirely depressing than this fact.


Are you serious?

How about... a puppy being run over by a car? That's pretty depressing.

What about someone dying of starvation... gradually wasting away, painfully dying? That's fairly harsh.

How about genocide? That's not only depressing... but also infuriating.

What about someone close to you ending his or her own life? That's a pain unlike anything I hope never to experience.

I can think of plenty of far more depressing things.


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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/7/2006 7:07:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


>There are plenty of pros that have so much demand they can pick and choose their clients, as well as charge a premium.<

Yes I'm sure your are right. I cannot think of anything more entirely depressing than this fact.


Why is it depressing? Because you can't afford them?

They can charge a premium because their skill level is that high. The reason they are in demand is because they offer something other pros don't: They can connect with a client on a level that establishes sensual domination and a real connection with them on a level beyond just "whip by the hour."

They can connect on this level because they only select clients they feel a "groove" with and they get a lot of repeat business.

The clients feel it also, so they keep coming back.

The pro then has a waiting list of new clients, and can pick and choose.

Akasha


I recall a quote from one of Stanley Marcus' books. "High price is no indication of quality, but the best is never cheap."


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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/7/2006 4:09:59 PM   
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Are you serious?

How about... a puppy being run over by a car? That's pretty depressing.

What about someone dying of starvation... gradually wasting away, painfully dying? That's fairly harsh.

How about genocide? That's not only depressing... but also infuriating.

What about someone close to you ending his or her own life? That's a pain unlike anything I hope never to experience.

I can think of plenty of far more depressing things.



Haha, Dahlia, now I feel guilty for laughing at the mention of starvation, genocide, and suicide - not to mention dead puppies.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/8/2006 12:18:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see any men asking for money from women on this site. How many women would pay a man? I myself wouldn't pay a woman for a "session" but I guess it depends on what your looking for. It would be nice if the pro-dommes would advertise in a different place. Actually I believe the rules of this website say that no one should be asking for money, so why do so many females get away with asking for money at this website? Obviously no oversight. My point is that I think collarme.com is advertised as a personals site, not a pay for "whatever" site. I think most men are looking for physical contact or sex.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/8/2006 2:33:39 PM   
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It would be nice if the pro-dommes would advertise in a different place. Actually I believe the rules of this website say that no one should be asking for money, so why do so many females get away with asking for money at this website? Obviously no oversight. My point is that I think collarme.com is advertised as a personals site, not a pay for "whatever" site. I think most men are looking for physical contact or sex.
Why because the men here don't need a pro domme?
I would say a great many of the men here could and should use a pro domme. I would certainly pay for if I were married and all I wanted was to be topped by a particular type of woman. You don't see men asking for money, but you see men asking for free service all of the time, which to me is no less worthy than money. M

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/8/2006 2:47:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Amazing how much flogging this dead horse can withstand. IMO people (generally male subs it would seem) should bear the following in mind:

  • If there were no demand, there would be no professional Dommes. Since there is a demand, it's obvious that a number of people appreciate their services.
  • I won't debate site rules, mentioning money, etc., but if a Domme is upfront and honest about what she is offering you can decide right off the bat whether you're interested.
  • As with any profile you don't like, any kink you're not into, sexual orientation that doesn't do it for you....just move on. That person is not for you.
  • Bottom line...why rant about it? People who start these "OMG...it's so unfair...she's asking for money...instead of just giving me everything I want" threads just end up putting themselves in a bad light

    Disclaimer...I have enjoyed the services of professional Dommes in the past (OMG...the far distant past!) and was extremely happy with sessions with a couple of them...a bit less so with another...but I got value for money. They all had significant investment in toys, equipment, clothing and play space. All were imaginative, and while the client set the broad parameters of the scene, it certainly was not scripted, "dom-by-numbers." And...most of all...their services dealt with a need I had at the time, which was not going to be sorted in a more "lifestyle" situation.

    I also know professional Dommes in the off-line world, and a couple of them are friends. While I'm sure there are women who represent themselves as professional Dommes who are only in it for money, the women I know definitely are not. They are lifestyle Dommes, who take what they do seriously. They truly enjoy what they are doing and pride themselves on giving their clients a positive experience.

    Tasha



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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 9:19:07 AM   
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but you see men asking for free service all of the time, which to me is no less worthy than money. M



Ok, so the sub women are asking for a free service from Dom Men? Or does it only apply to sub men and dom women?

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 9:33:31 AM   
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Ok, so the sub women are asking for a free service from Dom Men? Or does it only apply to sub men and dom women?


That depends. Are there a lot of sub women running around wanting specific play on their terms with no strings/commitments?

Probably a few, but I'd say not nearly as many as there are of male subs wanting that.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 1:26:30 PM   
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  • Bottom line...why rant about it? People who start these "OMG...it's so unfair...she's asking for money...instead of just giving me everything I want" threads just end up putting themselves in a bad light


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    • This would be true if you where to assume that because Im not happy with an embarrasing jumper for Christmas THIS ACTUALLY means I really expected a £100,000,000 Mansion with large pool and 3 Ferraris.

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 1:41:49 PM   
    McWhips


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    ORIGINAL: SexySwitch42


    Or does it only apply to sub men and dom women?


    Yes generally it does Im afraid.


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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 1:56:45 PM   
    MsCece2u


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    Status: offline     		No giving a Domme a tribute does not a hooker make. Personally I think it is sweet when a perspective sub makes a purchase or gives Me something that he knows that I will enjoy. It tells me that he has taken the time to get to know me and to invest his time in finding something that will make me smile.

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 2:50:29 PM   
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    Ok, so the sub women are asking for a free service from Dom Men? Or does it only apply to sub men and dom women?
    I'm going with MsSonnetMarwood, as it says perfectly what I would have wanted to say:
    quote:

    That depends. Are there a lot of sub women running around wanting specific play on their terms with no strings/commitments

    I'm also goint to give you some free advice SexySwitch42, since I'm a nice lady, and after all, if you're hot and you learn who knows, lol...
    We all pay for sex, just not always by handing over cash at the end of the session; ask the married men, or the men with a full dating schedules. M


    < Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 1/9/2006 2:55:08 PM >

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 2:54:11 PM   
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    Status: offline     		fem subs aren't as gulible as male subs IMHO...

    some male subs may pay through the nose to get someone to pay attention to them.

    i'm not that desperate nor that gulible.

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 3:04:39 PM   
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    fem subs aren't as gulible as male subs IMHO...

    some male subs may pay through the nose to get someone to pay attention to them.

    i'm not that desperate nor that gulible.


    I don't think those that see pros are necessarily gullible. I think quite a few just want to compartmentalize those interests in their lives, and are willing to pay rather than invest in the other trappings of a relationship.

    As BlkTallFullFig points out, we all pay for relationships in our own ways. Is that being gullible, or is that just way the world turns? Nothing is free, we are all looking to get something out of it.

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 3:10:19 PM   
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    fem subs aren't as gulible as male subs IMHO...
    With all due respect, that is a crock! Fem subs/dommes are very gullible (though I prefer the word trusting, which isn't a bad thing unless it's coupled with poor judgement), and we believe a lot of shit we perhaps should not sometimes.

    Same advice for you michaelGA... Come to terms with the fact that if you are not a generous human being, you wont attract a generous human being in return, but most importantly, you wont attract a dominant woman, who can have her pick of vanilla or kinky men; I've personally never met a man who would turn down a woman who can turn him on/out in the bedroom. M


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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 3:18:26 PM   
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    Status: offline     		i wouldn't turn them down, i just don't think paying cash for them is feasible.

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    RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 1/9/2006 3:52:58 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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    fem subs aren't as gulible as male subs IMHO...
    With all due respect, that is a crock! Fem subs/dommes are very gullible (though I prefer the word trusting, which isn't a bad thing unless it's coupled with poor judgement), and we believe a lot of shit we perhaps should not sometimes.

    Same advice for you michaelGA... Come to terms with the fact that if you are not a generous human being, you wont attract a generous human being in return, but most importantly, you wont attract a dominant woman, who can have her pick of vanilla or kinky men; I've personally never met a man who would turn down a woman who can turn him on/out in the bedroom. M



    Absolutely true. And subs also have to realize you are often competing with vanilla men for the attention of a dominant woman. Like it or not, plenty of dominant women are happy to "compromise" their wilder desires a little for a vanilla man who meets all of her relationship-based standards. It's much easier to "kink" a vanilla guy who is a great fit socially/romantically/emotionally than it is to "change" a kinky sub who doesn't possess the right qualities for a relationship.

    And there are a hell of a lot of vanilla men out there who find the idea of being with a dominant woman to be exciting and refreshing because they want more equality and welcome the kink with open arms.

    Akasha

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