thetammyjo
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candy i agree with you... i do not agree with feminism... which is ok... they don't agree with me. 
Again this weird idea that feminism is some monolith system.
Its just as incorrect a belief as claming that Christianity or Democrats or Conservatives are one system of belief, practice, theory, and application.
At the risk of starting an argument I'm going to add that I find it especially funny when women say they don't like feminism since, in my opinion, feminism over the past century and a half is what has given most women the education and the legal rights to be able to voice such opinions at all. Before then it was really just the very elite or outspoken women who could be educated enough, make enough money or even have enough time to have opinions and express them beyond their private home.
I'm sorry if you or candystripper have had negative experiences with people calling themselves feminists.
it isn't that i have had negative experiences necessarily with people calling themselves femnists... i feel badly that because of feminism, Men in this country do NOT get a fair shake in court (DUCKS from the flames i'm going to get for THAT comment)... children who are missing out on the 'other' parent (80% fathers)... women that go into court screaming abuse where none existed or where it existed under a BDSM life and she got ticked off and suddenly screamed abuse (NOT in every case, but many)... (i am NOT talking about true abuse, here btw)... i am speaking of women being women and KNOWING that the courts will, side with the woman. i am a paralegal and i've seen it first hand...
*steps off her soapbox*
How does this relate to feminism?
I could imagine there are branches of feminism where such court cases are applauded but you also added "women being women" above and that suggests it isn't feminism but some women you've seen abusing a legal system. I'm sure lots of people abuse the legal system and some folks are victims of it but I don't see how it connects to feminism.
Unless you think that giving women the right to seek divorce or to be able to testify in courts = women abusing the system.
I mean, do you think you could be a paralegal if feminists in the past had fought for your rights to a higher education or for hiring of women? Your very career is an outgrowth of feminist ideas combined with capitalist goals of more people working so they can spend more money.
You have every right to be angry when you see injustice happen and you have the right to try and get the laws changed but I don't believe you'd have that right if it wasn't for feminism in the first place.
I just don't understand where blaming feminism comes from because it makes no sense to me any more than I understand blaming any "group" of people.
I'm sure I do blame groups when I get upset even if I try not to so I'm in no way claiming to be better or absolutely perfect. Divine knows I'm not.
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