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ORIGINAL: mitsu
Money is not my primary concern, but it does help me pay for my studies, which are very important for me.
Secondary maybe?
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ORIGINAL: mistressravyn
I am glad to see someone other than Myself was offended by this "cloudboy".
the men and women who choose to serve Me are required to divulge all of their interests, fetishes, fantasies AND their limits before I even begin sessions with them.
No likeeeee experience no comeee backeeee good thinking
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ORIGINAL: mitsu
Yes, s/m is sexual, and although there are legal definitions of sex, we all know that they do not encompass the vast range of objects and activities that bring sexual feelings to different people. I think that I can speak for many pro doms when I say that I don't consider myself a whore.
So it is sex then?
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ORIGINAL: kc692
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ORIGINAL: McWhips
Technically speaking, asking money in exchange for sexual services is prostitution.
I have not looked at the forums for a little while, and when I look, some of the same people are still on the same subject...I have not read ahead, so this is probably answered, but since when is it assumed or expected that Pro Dommes give sexual services?
Mitsu said it is sexual.
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
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ORIGINAL: McWhips
Technically speaking, asking money in exchange for sexual services is prostitution.
Since professional domination is legal in areas where prostitution is illegal, this means it's not prostitution.
What I was saying was that the law makes a clear distinction that the person I was replying to did not.
War is legal once congress declares it, therefore its not murder?
Have ethics or morals and law ever shared the same bed.
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ORIGINAL: amayos
There simply IS no problem with it, other than what some "highly moral" individuals perceive as a problem.
We all exchange and receive tributes, gifts and money in our romantic/sexual/whatever interactions. I don't see what we do as "prostitution" at all, from either side of the fence.
Many people cant taste the difference between different wines either.
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ORIGINAL: DarkDove
I dont feel I cater to my slaves in the least
They come to me because I am a Domme and they wish to serve me if they are there for any other reason....
Dark Goddess
You arent a pro yet
Maybe they do now
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ORIGINAL: Foibey
Personally it'd seem pretty clear to me that a large number (the vast majority I'd guess) of clients of professional doms are handing over cash because they get off sexually on what is going on - on some level, a sexual service is being bought.
A whole load of other ones are doing it because it's a job they love and they're in a situation where they can do it.
hook·er 2 (hkr)
n.
1. One that hooks.
2. Slang A prostitute.
pros·ti·tute (prst-tt, -tyt) KEY NOUN:
1) One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
2) One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.
TRANSITIVE VERB:
pros·ti·tut·ed , pros·ti·tut·ing , pros·ti·tutes
1) To offer (oneself or another) for sexual hire.
2) To sell (oneself or one's talent, for example) for an unworthy purpose.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition.
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by the Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Prostitutes? here?
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
They can charge a premium because their skill level is that high.
Akasha
are you sure we are talking about skill here?
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ORIGINAL: MadameDahlia
What about someone dying of starvation... gradually wasting away, painfully dying? That's fairly harsh.
Thats not depressing?
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
I recall a quote from one of Stanley Marcus' books. "High price is no indication of quality, but the best is never cheap."
i beg to differ
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ORIGINAL: SexySwitch42
Actually I believe the rules of this website say that no one should be asking for money, so why do so many females get away with asking for money at this website?
Maybe its a pro female domme owned site?
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
You don't see men asking for money, but you see men asking for free service all of the time, which to me is no less worthy than money. M
True, what business gives out free service?
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ORIGINAL: tasha_tart
"OMG...it's so unfair...she's asking for money...
Tasha
Maybe they just feel discriminated against because they cannot advertize their businesses for free on CM like the pro dommes do?
i personally could use some free advertizing for my biz too, but i have a cock, shuckee gee.
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
most importantly, you wont attract a dominant woman, who can have her pick of vanilla or kinky men; I've personally never met a man who would turn down a woman who can turn him on/out in the bedroom. M
Do you really know a dominant woman who would pick a nilla man?
i have turned down several. Unfortunately.
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
It's much easier to "kink" a vanilla guy who is a great fit socially/romantically/emotionally than it is to "change" a kinky sub who doesn't possess the right qualities for a relationship.
And there are a hell of a lot of vanilla men out there who find the idea of being with a dominant woman to be exciting and refreshing because they want more equality and welcome the kink with open arms.
Akasha
Rumour has it they are all married.
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ORIGINAL: MsCece2u
What really pisses Me off about some of the comments on the thread is that if this was a vanilla relationship there would be no problem with buying the female in question a gift.
Yes of course no strings attached gift!
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ORIGINAL: MysticalPhoenix
Guys like getting sex for free (something for nothing).
Personally, I think vanilla guys should seek out and pay (either with cash or 'tribute' gifts') professionals or semi-pros for casual sex, as they used to have to do before the "sexual revolution".
But that's only my opinionated opinion. I don't engage in casual encounters of either the vanilla or the bdsm type. I learned that neither does anything for me, it just gets the guy's rocks off.
Phoenix
Of course!
Women dont!
From women seek men, some town rag
Jan-23 Help Me With My Fantasy
Jan-23 Cute brunette looking for role playing fun
Jan-23 NSA fun now
Jan-23 I love having a fun time. Stopping over in this town.
Jan-23 Up for a fling
Jan-22 Pleasure seekers wanted
Jan-22 Looking for a good time
Jan-22 Looking for older man 35+
Jan-22 I am playing with the idea of having an affair
Jan-21 Enough of those quick guys
Jan-21 are you into oral with a female rainwoman???
Jan-21 Woman looking for 12 inches and THICK
Jan-21 I luv having flings
Jan-21 gang bang girl
Jan-21 white lady sucks black men
Jan-20 Please help me out - I want you
Note: edited the 200 of the not so obvious in the title.
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ORIGINAL: amayos
Thinking you are in control of a Pro simply because you are paying is the swiftest way to get her boot up your ass.
Edited to say: (and not in a good way). ;)
Market News Flash: stock plummets as amayos corporation realizes sharp declines in sales
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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML
a gift is one thing.......but $500 for an hour?
i never spent THAT much in a weekend........on a vanilla woman.
THAT's the DIFFERENCE...in MY eyes.
Mmm 336 glorious peaceful hours of walleye fishing at canada resort!
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
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Ironically, Marriage = long term prostitution is a traditional feminist viewpoint, slavery is also occasionally thrown around (I was raised by a rather hardline feminist at the height of the fight for the ERA amendment).
Boy the traditional feminists are tough broads, especially on the poor married women.
Maybe poor feminists?
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ORIGINAL: lokisgodhi
I'd suggest that it's more like being baited and switched with the 'domme' claiming to be providing one thing when they're really delivering something else.
Now that went right over my head, how about you pros?
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ORIGINAL: lokisgodhi
"It's hard to find compatible play partners. It's hard to find true dominants."
It's a lot harder because of the scam artists and frauds that characterize themselves as dommes.
i'm cured! Thats why i rarely write anyone on here any more. sadly i am finding more real and potential from yahoo messenger of all things.
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
Very similar since being a nudist is much more than just walking around naked. They have a complex set of beliefs and behaviors that go far beyond not wearing clothing.
I'm naked a lot but I'll never be a nudist.
Free?
Hmm Pro nudist, now there's a concept.
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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou
The irony is those of us that *aren't* are often approached as if we were (as happened, again, tonight - sigh.)
Now I know my profile does not say one single thing about tribute or "gifts" or "spoiling" or any other subliminal messaging, and I still get the "I'll be in town for a week and would like a session." 
Well trained client?
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
How about emailing and getting to know a Lady as a woman and human being, and if during the get to know phase M
Because they ignore your email?
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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood
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Injecting money or goods and services
dating and courting
No difference?
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ORIGINAL: lokisgodhi
A dominant should take on the responsibilities of being a dominant. If you want all the vanilla stuff then find yourself a master.
"I can't say I'd spend much time with such an individual who expected to do nothing for me"
If feel the same way obout this scam artist dommes. They do as little as they can get away with and try to extract as much as they can in the form of money, gifts and/or service.
Hmm responsibility, now there is a concept!
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn
Quite the comical exchange, but I nearly bit my tongue off when I found myself about to say "and I'll do women's stuff and make you a nice cup of tea!"
THats cute!
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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood
Interesting. In a nutshell, you feel that if a Domme expects anything, she's a scam artist and out for your money. In my experience, those so paranoid (whch is the correct word here) about women being out for their money, don't actually have any.
Nor a good attorney
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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
I just want to know when
"Pro" Domme
and
'Lifestyle" Domme
started meaning the same thing.....
Creative advertizing?
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ORIGINAL: seaturtle50
OK, i just have to ask ...
Why exactly would a Dominant Woman wish a submissive man to pay for dinner on a date?
seaturtle50
To be submissive?
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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood
I accept and have no problem with the fact that I provide the technical knowledge, the guidance, heck, even the phenomenal toybag. But buy you dinner as well? Ahh no.
Thanks for sharing.
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ORIGINAL: McWhips
As far as women who expect the man to make more of a financial contribution to a relationship is concerned:
Its too bad that some women use the reason that they are 'women' in order to make the situation different from that of when I enjoy the pleasure of my freinds company simply because they are actually my freinds hence dont feel as though I should be giving them anymore in material terms than they are giving me, except in extenuating circumstances such as if they where living in poverty or needed a favour from a mate.
Even rich people with Ferraris are very selective of who they choose as freinds for similar reasons as they want 'real' freinds.
Granted that whoever has to stay at home and look after the kids etc is contributing as much as the other who is working whether that be the man or the woman.
i like this guys posts, the guy has both feet on the ground.
So lets see, i have learned that this evolves around sex and is sexually driven from the words of a few pro dommes.
i have learned that pro dommes provide a service that attracts these sexually driven individuals.
and from the dictionary i have learned that prostitute is defined as:
1) To offer (oneself or another) for sexual hire.
2) To sell (oneself or one's talent, for example) for an unworthy purpose.
For those who are literary challenged:
sex·u·al (sksh-l) KEY
ADJECTIVE:
Of, relating to, involving, or characteristic of sex, sexuality, the sexes, or the sex organs and their functions.
Implying or symbolizing erotic desires or activity.
Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction characterized by the union of male and female gametes: sexual reproduction.
i suppose from all the evidence i have seen that providing a service for sexually driven men that consequentially provides sexual relief for that man direct or indirect, could by definition be legitimately descibed as a hooker or prostitute, the findings of social law not withstanding.
Imagine if life were only governed by law, ethics or morals not withstanding, what a sad place this would be for all but the attorneys.
Its supply and demand, the pros would not exist if the men did not want them.
i do feel that advertizing their pro domme business on this site is inappropriate and not in the spirit of a site that is for finding a partner. They should put a check box not to see anyone advertized as a pro. that would solve this issue. i personally hate the increasing amount of spam put up by pros. That is what it is to the greater majority of us who have no interest in wallet rapists. If CM wants to intermingle business and lifestyle the very least they could do is to put in the search section of (Actively seeking) "pro domme" as one of the choices so those who want to find a pro domme and vice versa can go diectly to each other without reading about the lifestylers seeking partners. Which would be spam to them.
Personally, this site has been considerably less than i had hoped it would be. Overall i like yahoo messenger better. At least they are respectful and dont ignore me like they do here.
Cheers!
The real 1
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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 
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) i mean as Her submissive, is it not She who is taking me on this date anyway? 
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