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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/29/2005 5:32:46 PM

CrymzonKajira

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Thank You again Master Six....

I sit here and type my thoughts with tears rolling down my cheeks as I reflect upon the things I have done...
The pain I have caused and the people I lost because of my stupidity. I acted outsde the boundaries of my place and position in your household. I tried to change things to my ways and found not only hatred but pain, and I WAS WRONG!!!!

I, take blame again...I know my actions, but yes as I said I will one day dream to aspire to being one in your house and control again..That is my deepest desire.. and I state there here for you and everyone to criticize..
his lil one has learned her lesson through denial and seclusion..which she needed to become the best slave she could be...to you and if not you..then for herself..

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF MY APOLOGY....IT MEANS MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW MASTER.....<3

Again, I retreat with love..

Crymzon

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/29/2005 7:18:05 PM

Belladonna82

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Well here i go.......my thoughts and opinions are still hazy...so lets just leave this as a hello!

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/29/2005 7:20:40 PM

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Bella-
So nice to hear from you again, and your "hello" is a wonderful start..a stepping stone. Thank You...I will take whatever you deem proper or feel the need to say to me..either here or through personal emails. I deserve your wrath if anyone's.

Crymzon

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/29/2005 7:41:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirSix72
you are always trying to poke holes in how everyone has based their lifestyle upon, especially mine.

You're not that special, and I don't poke holes in how everyone bases their life. I DO try and give perspectives based on experience and intuition.

quote:

I think this is one situation that you will find that you dont belong in.

A poly situation that goes too fast with blind eyes and crashes and burns shortly after? Been there, done that, own the t-shirt franchise, as well as seen it countless times from others.

quote:

Maybe between CrymzonKajira, myself and bella you will find out that we are what we claim to be.

People who get wrapped up in how they appear and don't focus on actually building long term relationships?

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I have lots of life experience and I usually dont boast about how long I have been in the lifestyle to many people to tear them down

You want me to pull out all the posts you mentioned your years of experience and how position managing your swingers club (which you aren't a manager of)? There were quite a few of them. We both know I'm excellent at finding old posts. You are the one who kept tossing that around as proof of your experience.

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unllike your approach of always attacking someone's intelligence because you are soooooooooooo active in your lifestyle group.

I don't attack people's intelligence. I ask questions that hopefully will lead them to finding out more about themselves.

This is the situation: You brought in a new chick from a distance to become an immediate live-in slave with you.

After two days, you all were posting about how amazing and wonderful and perfect it all was, as well as posting as if you had been in this situation and wonderful in it for a long time.

I posted that you all should take stock and keep perspective. I was dismissed as being negative.

Within less than a week, your new slave had been kicked out. Bella had been "released for two weeks."

By the end of the weekend, Bella was again collared and in your good graces, but Ophelia was not. You labeled her as someone with ulterior motives and playing games.

Two weeks or so later, Ophelia comes out with a big public apology. You thus accept the apology and then again try and dismiss my perspective (along with several insults) when I suggest you take things slow and look at things a bit deeper this time around.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/29/2005 9:27:01 PM

KnightofMists

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Well here i go.......my thoughts and opinions are still hazy...so lets just leave this as a hello!

It is often the wisest course to step back and take a strong look at oneself. where one is and where one has been. Sort out ones emotions and thoughts.... consider them deeply.... then consider carefully how one should proceed forward to improve ones happiness and well-being.

bella... this comment and the actions it implies is likely the wisest one I have seen from you given the circumstances... my compliments!

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 9:54:49 AM

SirSix72

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

managing your swingers club (which you aren't a manager of)? There were quite a few of them. We both know I'm excellent at finding old posts. You are the one who kept tossing that around as proof of your experience.

This is the situation: You brought in a new chick from a distance to become an immediate live-in slave with you.

Funny as you are little girl I think that maybe you should get your story from the horses mouth before you go around sticking your foot in your mouth. As far as me managing this establishment, that I do im the assistant manager here not that it matters if I prove it to you. Although I know you have been stalking me on different boards. See I was right about you finding a home in the midsts of chaos. Do you even have a personal life or is all y ou time devoted to playing on the interent and putting your two cents in where it dosent belong at times. You life experience would be valuable but you have a GOD syndrome that you are all knowing. Grow up a little bit and I personally would find you al ittle more believable. Where is your Master and why isnt he posting about your life experience with him. This is the confusing part for me. You soooo want to be believed but have nothing to back it up with besides a few interent freinds that follow your posts. Im done with this conversation with an interent junkie. Welcome to the block feature

Master Six

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 10:01:38 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirSix72
You soooo want to be believed but have nothing to back it up with besides a few interent freinds that follow your posts.

Sadly this has degenerated into nothing but personal insults and dismissals.

If anyone does care, I will be in Austin, Texas this weekend at the Rope Symposium, my groups Rope Bondage seminar next Wednesday, next weekend in New Jersey for another foot fetish party, and at my groups holiday munch on the 21st. If anyone cares to get more information or details so that you can meet personally in a public, open, non-threatening environment, please feel free to email.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 10:07:06 AM

Belladonna82

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First off Sir,if you do not know the whole ordeal....keep ya typing to a minimum.My thoughts and opinions are a little hazy because of all the crap thats happened recently. Crymzon and i have made alot of mistakes,we have taken from it and hopefull all learned a little more about ourselves.Now I am not saying that things will go back to the way they were.....but i'm not saying Crymzon and me may not one day be good friends. Alot of emotions are still around,mainly mine.Master always said that submissives/slave are always strong,they just bow before those who are "true" to their nature,but if not they will eat you for lunch.....i'm hungry...wanna go for dinner?

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 10:44:29 AM

KnightofMists

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

First off Sir,if you do not know the whole ordeal....keep ya typing to a minimum.My thoughts and opinions are a little hazy because of all the crap thats happened recently. Crymzon and i have made alot of mistakes,we have taken from it and hopefull all learned a little more about ourselves.Now I am not saying that things will go back to the way they were.....but i'm not saying Crymzon and me may not one day be good friends. Alot of emotions are still around,mainly mine.Master always said that submissives/slave are always strong,they just bow before those who are "true" to their nature,but if not they will eat you for lunch.....i'm hungry...wanna go for dinner?

bella... that is correct, I don't know the whole ordeal... and to be honest it is not my concern, nor do I need or want to know. But, I will acknowledge to anyone when in my opinion they have demonstrated a behavior that reflects a character strength to be admired. You showed wisdom with your behavior amoung others things in your simple post. We all make mistakes within relationships, sometimes these mistakes are of such a degree that it will forever restrict the type of relationship we can have with another. But, sometimes these mistakes that are so common can propel use to be closer within our choose relationships. As I am sure you know, there is no magic wand to understand and learn what to do and what not to do. oh my if there was wouldn't it be wonderful... just think of all those lawyers out of work becuase 50% of failed marriages actually work and have no need for lawyers. mmmmmm hope there isn't any divorce lawyers here *G*

"true" to their nature... that is a key point in my opinion of gaining happiness for anyone, Dom,sub switch and even lawyers *G*. How we choose to behave thou is another thing all together. "true to our nature doesn't in of itself dictate what is the appropriate behavior demonstrated that would be universally applied to everyone. Two slaves can be very true to there given nature... but yet the behaviors demonstrated and witnessed can and often is different. The differences can be in some cases minor and in some cases significant. We as human beings that are complex in our nature... no two individuals exactly the same. My two girls alandra and kyra... both of which have profiles on CM.. are very similiar in some ways but yet there is some big differences. While alandra has always desired to be a mother of children... this in of itself is not a desire that kyra has ever had. While kyra has shared more than a few posts on this site, alandra is not so eager to express her thoughts in the online enviroment and has only a handful. But, they both seek to serve and please me... they both rejoice and support each other in anyway possible to allow the other to bring me pleasure that suits my Will. My bottom "denika" who also has a profile on collar me is also an individual that seeks to move towards being "true" to her nature. She like my slaves share similiar behaviors but and to some extent similiar nature... but yet all three's "true" nature is abit different from one another and it is reflected in differences of behavior and personality.

Now... is it lunch time yet *G*

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 2:14:59 PM

Belladonna82

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After rereading your past posts and this one...i can see where your coming from. We are all diffrent because we are all human. A Master/switch/sub/slave (or what ever someone wishes to be titled) have diffrent desires,wants,and needs. This experience has made me more open minded in general.My heart is still mending from many things...some having to do with recent and others from my own past. I look forward to learning and growing in the furture but the scares of the past will always keep me in check. Thanks for your thoughts...lol now lets do lunch some other time.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 6:39:13 PM

stormsfate

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Just curious as to how this thread turned out to be about SirSix72, Belladonna82 and CrymzonKajira a/k/a Ophelia? Did they have something to do with the OP or was the thread hijacked?

Sorry... guess I'm just not paying attention.

best regards,
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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 11/30/2005 8:23:27 PM

Belladonna82

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Hijacked...

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/13/2005 1:50:19 PM

SimplySubmissive

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I've read these posts with interest, i also followed the happenings when it was all new and blissful. I am a bit cynical about such things, and really i did expect that there would be some problems in this situation. There is always that hope that I will find a sucessful poly relationship that is discussed here, it's very interesting to see it all unfold, and learn from others experiences. I feel badly for all involved, tho especially bella. We as subs/slaves are told by some over and over that poly is so wonderful, it will all be fine, look a new sis! all that stuff. We all have fears about this, and to see them come true so vividly is disheartning.
As for LA/ES, she always offers wonderful, unbiased insight into everything she choses to respond to. I have a great deal of respect for her for that. It's easy to discuss what we might do, or might react, much harder to look at things from an unbiased, non-judgemental aspect.
Sirsix;
You know that LA does not appreciate being called litte girl, there was a whole discussion about this a while ago. I lost any respect i may have had for You to see You use it again here on purpose, to get a reaction i assume.
I know i'm a little late to this thread, but I've been away for awhile.
good luck to you all, and I hope that next time, such a situation is thought out, and taken slowly, so that hearts do not need to be injured in the quest for that illusive second.
ss

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/13/2005 2:10:59 PM

KOMA

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I will tell you from being on both sides of the situation your in...it is a hard decision but one that you must make.

If he respects what he has with you and all of the others, he will not allow the clammering and noise making for his attentions. There are set times for each person so their should be no reason for this. Nor will he make you have to compete. It should never be about that though personalities bring all this into the play. You will simply have to decide if he deserves you and values you enough as to whether you want to continue to allow yourself to feel this way and be used as such.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/14/2005 7:24:15 AM

slavejali

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Are you really Keanu Reeves Sir? grin

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/16/2005 6:56:19 PM

SirDarkside357

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It is not My way to tell anyone what is right or wrong in their own family, all I can say is what is right for my family. In the "old days" before I was mature enough to know what I really wanted, I was a player, I did much like the one you discribed..... with time I realised that what i was doing was not building a family, but just playing....now, My life is full, I have my family started and all is well and happy..... I think you, by the comments you made, already know what you need...good luck in finding it.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/16/2005 7:09:50 PM

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Talk about being a day late and a dollar short.... I see I need to read all the post before I reply and not just the first one LOL My comment was concerning the first post only...it is none of my business, nor do I want to get involved with a Master and His slaves...good lucj Six, hope all works out well.

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/17/2005 7:31:43 AM

tanarria

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Hi everyone,

It's hard to believe it's been 4 months since I originally posted my question to this board. I thought it might be of benefit to update everyone and again share my thankfulness to those that have shared in this thread.

I am still involved in the poly relationship. It has now been 7 months. Interestingly enough, the issues I posted about at the beginning of this thread still exist. The girl that was involved in that question (selfish) is no longer involved, however, there have been 2 new additions to his and my relationship. There are now 4 girls, including his fiance (they are getting married in April), a once-in-awhile play date, a girl that is more of a permanent fixture, and myself.

The progression of our relationship has been that starting in the "honeymoon stage" where we couldn't get enough of each other, to my being put aside while he pursued his new shiny play toys. I ended it about a month ago after I was particularly feeling pushed aside, but after a lengthy discussion, decided it was worth a try again. We have been rebuilding our relationship slowly and the decision has been made that I will not be present while the other girls are with him as well - at this point.

Things are still strained, but I want to give it until the end of January to see if changes have been or will be made and see if the relationship is worth salvaging at that time. Of course, this time frame is not static. The holidays add their own stressors to any relationship and I want to see what "normal" is like again after they are over.

I am not one to run away from any relationship and I believe that not only are relationships hard work, but if you put the hard work into them, they can be well worth it.

On the other hand, I have very much enjoyed reading other people's relationship experiences and the more I read, the more I have come to realize that his version of poly is not what I'm looking for. For now, it is fun and meets a very real need I have in my life, but when my Master and I are living together (for those of you that don't know or remember, I am collared to a Master that lives LD in Florida), we will have more of a "family" atmosphere and none of this pushing one aside while the new one gets all the attention. I strongly believe this other type of atmosphere is what fostered ALL of the resentment, bitterness, and anger that has brought us to where we are today in my poly relationship.

Thank you again to all that have posted and shared.

In Love, Light, and Service,

tana

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/17/2005 10:31:20 AM

phoenixMF

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Hi tanarria,
I'm in a "closed" poly family. When I have to spend a night alone... I try to distract myself by watching tv, reading, writing or just daydreaming about Master being with me. The love that I have for my sister slave,also helps me get through those lonely nights... I want her to be happy too, so I'm glad she can enjoy her personal nights with Master.

As simple as this sounds, it's not enough for me... so hopefully, very soon... Master will give me permission to get a dog so it can sleep in my bed with me. I had a huge dog before and when it layed beside me in bed, my arm around it... both of us slumbering... it's so easy to pretend it's Master. lol

If that doesn't work... I'm going to be asking for a mannequin for my next birthday. Sooner or later, one of my ideas will work. Good luck!

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RE: New to Poly - Need Advice - 12/17/2005 11:22:59 AM

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I will not be cloned...lol

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