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Serving multiple masters - 2/5/2005 11:15:25 PM   
ravenna


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i am owned jointly by two very dominant men. (And yes, they are very good friends!) Several of my new friends here tell me this is very unusual, or at least it seems so to them. Well, i personally don't know anyone else in my situation, nor do my owners, and in browsing around the profiles and forum threads here and on a couple of other similar sites, i haven't yet found another female slave who says she is owned by two (or more) men. (Although they certainly must be out there, and many slaves are owned by or looking for male/female couples.)

My question: How unusual is my position? Does anyone here, male or female, have any experience with being owned jointly in this way, by two or more masters or mistresses, or know of anyone else whose experience you can share? Or of being owned by a male/female couple where both are dominant? Or have any interest in being owned jointly, or have anything else relevant you want to share or ask? (i also plan to post similar questions to Ask a Master/Mistress, too.)

Thanks, and my best to everyone, it's lovely to be here and to be able to ask questions like this.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/6/2005 1:25:55 AM   
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Don't post the same question to more than one forum. They'll delete all but one instance of it.

You are in a polyamorous relationship known as polyandry. It is a little unusual (but not unheard of.) More often it is a Domme headed relationship that is done this way. Is one of your Dom in charge or is it a total equal sharing? How long has this situation been in place? There is actually a tribe in India, the Toda, that are routinely polyandrous.

Most of the joint ownerships of a sub that I know of, are when the sub gets their own sub and the Dominant is the final word for both. A friend of mine is in a Top/Top relationship. They keep separate subs and are careful to respect each other's property.

Congrats on your unique and interesting relationship.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/6/2005 6:57:20 PM   
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Hello ravenna:

As you know, I'm looking for a more garden variety trio, so can't really help with your request for M/M/f dynamics.

However....

With a previous submissive, I did have a very intense evening long session when a friend of mine stopped by just after I had blindfolded my sub.
He was an experienced man whom I trusted, and we took turns, double teamed and in general completely mind-fucked the sub. It was awesome, he and I seemed to share a sort of telepathy regarding what was going to happen next, got into a sort of trance and worked like a seamless duo. We passed the next needed tool, flogger or whatever, to the other without having to be asked for it, alternated giving pain, and pleasure. I don't share, but he was a stand up guy and I didn't have any worries about him wanting to go beyond any of my boundaries. That was another of the unspoken but understood parts of the magical evening.

By dawns light, all three of us were glowing with pride or sensory overload or warm joy or all of the above. A truly great night, completely unscripted and one which will not be forgotten.

In retrospect, I guess this should open me up to more than my desired M/f/f situation, but I flunked sharing in kindergarden and am pretty sure that I'd hate 99% of the situation if I were to try polyandry.

Very glad you are enjoying your situation. My hat is off to your Owners.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/6/2005 11:11:59 PM   
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Dear KingofTrio,

It's so nice to hear from you! Thank you for describing your "magical evening," that sort of double-teaming is very familiar to me, and i'm sure you could tell from your sub's reactions that it can be incredibly magical for her as well. It's simply mind-boggling to lose track of which man is doing what to me and to know it doesn't matter because i belong to them both, it's as if i'm submitting to the whole universe embodied in them, as if every cock or hand or mouth or whip that enters me or touches me is the whole world entering me -- Sorry, i'm getting way off-topic! But thank you, and please give my best to your girl, too...

Thank you, BeachMystress, for the advice on not posting twice, and i know this sort of M/M/f relationship is common in some cultures, but it seems to be rare in ours. In my case, my two owners have made it clear that i am to consider them equals, but one owner (Michelangelo) will be my "managing partner," since the other (Marco Polo) travels a great deal, often where it would be impossible to pack me along. Michelangelo also travels, but usually where i will be "packable," and probably even useful (i plan to be). So i'll probably be spending more time with him alone than with Marco Polo, but they're together as much as they can be.

How long has this been going on? It's a little complicated. They've actually owned me jointly for less than a month, but Marco was my first owner, Michelangelo was my second, each one had full use of me when the other owned me (it was very much like joint ownership even then), and between them they owned me for about five and a half years. (Then i was with my third owner for a little less than two years.) i've known them both for ten years now, and they know me better than i know myself. So being owned by both of them together really feels like going home to where i've always belonged. My owners also prefer not to share me (or their other toys) with others, but they are special cases for each other; they're childhood friends who are intensely bonded and more like brothers but without all the sibling rivalry stuff. They disagree all the time, they're very different, but they have the same vision for our life together, and so far they tell me they think it's working beautifully. (i think so too!) But so many people here have remarked to me on how far-fetched it all seems, that i thought i might be eye-opening to ask the community at large just how uncommon we are...

i (and my owners) would love to hear anyone else's experiences, reactions, comments, questions, etc. And i'm wondering if this kind of triad might be more common where all three members are gay? Any ideas? And i have always thought it would be very workable for a whole group of men to own one slave together, sort of like a time-share beach house; twelve guys could each have her for two weeks apiece twice a year, for example; maybe she could be part of the beach house amenities. Brilliant or crazy -- what do you think? And if anyone has lived as a triad or a group long-term, or knows of anyone who has, any experiences you can share would be most welcome -- potential blessings, dangers, pitfalls, rewards, etc.

Thanks so much for your patience and caring, it means so much to me.

ravenna

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/8/2005 12:01:25 PM   
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I tried it, but found that one was much stronger in my headspace and for me I wasn't able to continue the dynamics of both men. I ended up being alone when all was said and done, but what a ride while it lasted!!

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/8/2005 1:06:06 PM   
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It sounds like you are really enjoying your situation and I am happy for that. I was just curious about one thing. Are you "in love" with either man? Would love get in the way of a situation like this? I've heard you can love two men at once but there has to be some kind of deep connection somewhere, in my opinion. I have been known to be wrong though.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/8/2005 1:51:19 PM   
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in my relationship whit my Dom we have been looking for more Dominats to take into the relationship. my Dom like the idea of lending me out to be used by others, and we would like to have a relationship whit some playpartners.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/8/2005 10:08:10 PM   
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Sweetpleaser,

Thank you for asking. Yes, i am deeply, madly in love with both of my owners, and i really was surprised when that happened (more than ten years ago now!), i had not expected that at all. But it's nothing like coincidence or luck; their lives were/are so bound together, they were always a package deal. Almost the very first thing Marco Polo wanted to do the morning after our first night together was to show me off to Michelangelo; i think he wanted his best friend's reaction to me (and my reaction to him) to see if i was a "keeper." i probably wouldn't have been a keeper if it seemed that i could love one and hate, or be indifferent to, the other. i have a very deep connection with both of them, but each connection is different in so many ways... but then, when both of them are flogging me or using me they do tend to run together...

Ahem! Back to your question, i think! Love matters deeply to me too. But on a practical level, i'm sure i could proudly serve two or more men as a sex slave without being loved by them or loving them. (At least to begin with; i find a man's desire to flog me and fuck me VERY endearing.) After all, every woman is physically equipped to serve multiple partners, isn't she? (The natural orifice-to-penis ratio is at least 2-to-1, and 3-to-1 if her back door is open...) And if love really were not an issue at all, it might even be easier psychologicallyfor a woman to serve several men than just one; prostitutes, callgirls and escorts can handle large clienteles, why not a sex slave?

Maybe i can talk my owners into trying that time-share beach house idea as an experiment -- if they sell 50 more shares in me, every member would get unlimited use of me, ravenna, and exotic Club Ravenna sur la Mer, for just one week a year! Memberships now available! Call now, operators are standing by! ...Sorry, they tell me i'm still not for sale, but the idea was just irresistible. And what's wrong with it in principle, since everyone involved would obviously be there consensually? (Except maybe the law.) Sounds like a hell of a business plan to me! Any thoughts?

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 2/9/2005 6:10:29 AM   
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Damn girl, you're kinky. Well, I imagine since you are still young and not ready to settle down this whole idea would be great!! In my younger days I would have loved to be in your situation. What I mean by settling down is having children, by the way. So, enjoy what you have and hopefully it will continue for a long, long time.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/18/2005 6:26:45 PM   
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ravenna
you are not as unusual as many here would let on.
I'm very happy to know that for you Three this relationship works.
how would you feel about other slaves being brought into
the relationship? What about a Dominant Woman?
Having had two Dominant Men as Husbands at the same
time as well as all of Us Owning Our Own slaves I'm curious
as to what type of changes as life matures you will accept into
this current relationship if any. And yes I can understand
your rosie red cheeks and natural highs. I remember them well.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/20/2005 6:45:54 AM   
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ravenna, I can't speak from the owned point of view, but I can say from the other side, it's not that unusual, at least to me. In our case, we are Dom/me couple and although with her 24/7 male subby we have joint ownership (so to speak), she is for the most part the primary owner of him. I doubt this is a necessity, but I and he perhaps also are more comfortable with it. So he has the same situation you speak of, he has two Dominants to answer to, not so much in a sexual way as I am not bi, but more from a service point of view. We have never had any problems with this. I think the key here would be very open communication not only between the Dominants, but also with the sub/slave. Also important, in my estimation, is to be certain there is coordination, to not ever have a situation where the Dominants contradict themselves by one saying one thing while the other says something else and/or not have a situation where the sub/slave goes to the other if the answer wasn't what they wanted (a variation of ask dad when mom said no..lol). Soon we intend to have a female sub/slave, the situation will be similar where she will be mine primarily (this really doesn't restrict any directives) but will actually be Ours. Do I anticipate problems? No, but we do our homework up front and are sure the situation is discussed openly with all parties involved, up front. Since in your case there is no primary owner, I would only have to assume that the communication between the Dominants would become even more important.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/22/2005 12:17:47 AM   
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Yes, it does seem sometimes that i am owned by a small but very argumentative committee. But hashing out what's to be done with the slavegirl seems to be for them part of the fun of owning her. They love having these endless comical-philosophical debates on the theory and practice of the enjoyment, use and management of the thoroughly modern slavegirl, and they always reach some sort of a consensus, even though they seem to vote by volume and intensity rather than by the numbers. There are only two votes total (i don't get to vote), but there have been no ties to break so far. Which is a good thing, since i would be hard to split up if they decided to divide their assets. Fortunately they like using me together, they don't feel the need to take turns, and the three of us have bonded so deeply that none of us, i am assured, can imagine wanting to split up the property. They tell me i'm a pretty lucky slavegirl, and i believe them.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/22/2005 1:02:01 AM   
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I have only seen it once before, with two Males Owning one slave.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/22/2005 1:12:32 AM   
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ravenna-
I am fascinated by your dynamic with Michaelangelo and Marco Polo. Congrats!! Do y'all plan to stay a trio or expand? Do they want to own more women? How would you feel about that?
I'm just being plain nosy, here, so forgive me if I'm too personal.
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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/22/2005 7:35:50 AM   
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ravenna,

I only know of one such situation. As in your case, the Doms are also best friends. I don't feel that this kind of relationship could work unless they were best friends. There would have to be a lot of trust between the Doms.

(sighs) I'd like to write more, but the real world calls.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/22/2005 11:24:44 PM   
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MzBerlin, your nosiness is entirely welcome, and may i say it looks like a perfectly lovely nose, too!

Yes, the stability and future prospects of our unusual trio have been the topic of endless conversation and speculation on Planet Ravenna. That's one reason i started this thread, to see if we could borrow some wisdom here, and i thank everyone so much who has read or responded here. The rulers of my planet are adamant that our triad is for life, no matter what happens. i am forever deeply humbled by how seriously their commitment to weld our three lives together into a unit. A great deal of legal and financial planning, and rearrangement of their own lives, as well as other people's lives, which i can't go into here, has already gone into their renewed ownership of me, with more to come. And on the very personal level of my skin, i already bear one permanent mark of ownership (Michelangelo's) and i will soon bear two more, one marking me as Marco's property and a third marking me as jointly owned by both of them. (Eagerly anticipated is a raging understatement, and i don't even know what they'll look like or where i'll be wearing them yet...)

And yet it's true that anything might happen, since i am the only inhabitant of Planet Ravenna who has lost her freedom. If my owners decided to add another woman to their portfolio, or a whole harem of women, or a girls' marching band and a troupe of dancing dwarves, they would be free to do so, and i am not free to leave or to "cancel the contract" or to withdraw my consent or undo my surrender to their enslavement. i explicitly gave up all those rights when i was recollared and bought and paid for (too long a story, but you get the drift). And both of my guys are major babe magnets; sometimes when they walk into a room full of men and women it's just eye-popping to watch the girls' nipple erections pop out and i can almost smell the lovely female pheromones fill the air. And they both really like and enjoy women in every way, not just as fucking-and-flogging objects, although thank God they like that a lot too, 'cause that's way up near the top of my job description. If they went looking for another slave or two for their home planet, they would find a long line of willing applicants waiting at the auction block.

If they do decide to add another slavegirl someday, my emotional reactions (and i confess i would probably have all sorts of wildly conflicting emotions) would just be a management challenge for them, not a limit. Michelangelo ended a long-term vanilla relationship when he recollared me (his choice, not at all up to me), but Marco has a long-term, off-and-on girlfriend whom he calls a "conflicted submissive," and i don't think it's impossible that she might someday turn our triangle into a square. And Michelangelo and i have just returned home from a long weekend with another old friend of his and his brand-new slavegirl (we were the witnesses for his official collaring of her Saturday!), so i am just now very alive to the amazing pleasures of serving alongside another female slave. It would certainly work, if that were what my owners wanted.

My owners think our triad can survive whatever happens in our lives, and i would trust them literally with my life, and with someone else's life too: Another big issue under discussion has been what to do if they get me pregnant. To cut to the chase, my getting accidentally knocked up is unlikely but not impossible, and they might even decide to do it on purpose. (i'm not volunteering, but i'm ready if they are, and of course my cute little eggs are theirs to fertilize if they so desire...) Their very high-tech plan is to flip a coin to decide who marries me! (They're old-fashioned guys.) The lucky fella then divorces me in a few years so the other one can marry me, the lucky kid gets both surnames, in some order or another, they consider themselves both fathers to the little rugrat, pardon me, treasured fruit of my loins, and they swear they would never demand a DNA test to ID which of them is the actual sperm-donating father, barring medical necessity. They don't want to know.

i feel very blessed to belong to guys who always have a plan, even if they don't have any immediate plan to use their plan, and actually i can't imagine a better plan in the whole world. (Except for all that marrying-and-divorcing business, although i'm sure it will be loads of fun if it comes to that. And i really don't need to be a wife or a mom, i've already got the job title i was meant to have, and hope to have for the rest of my life...)

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/26/2005 4:11:12 AM   
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thank you so much for sharing your story. i am in love with all three of you now. :)

i don't have any input into your situation as i have never experienced it myself, but it is entirely conceivable to me that it could work beautifully.


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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/26/2005 8:01:31 AM   
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I'm truly happy to hear that your relationship is working out. I am unable to wrap my head around the dynamic...as the phrase, "Too many cooks in the kitchen" keeps coming to mind. I know the 2 Doms 1 sub relationships are out there...perhaps it's just not for me. Thanks for sharing your story.

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/28/2005 10:31:57 AM   
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thats great! Thank you for sharing about what goes on in planet Ravenna = ) Like buttercup said, i'm inlove with all 3 of you. Me thinks you should write a book as i am definetly interested in hearing more about the story. Hmmmmmmmm (thinks of interesting nosey questions to have you revealing more) So you are bi? Is there ever any dicussion about adding a Domme? Whats daily life like for you? Have any illustrations? You said you've been owned jointly for 10 years? Do you follow proctol in their presence? Who gets to punish you? Are your rules jointly made? Do either of them have certian "fetishs" that conflict with the other? Like one enjoys you in high heels constantly and the other likes socks? Do they do alot of compromising or are they usually on the same page?

Your situation seems very exciting and interesting and i can see the commerical for the newly released Movie "Planet Ravenna" Who'd you think would play you and your two Masters? Or "The life the slavegirl ravenna" Complete from the slave girls view point as it would be the most interesting IMHO.

Errrrrrrrrrrr forgive me........ i do read alot. <grins> Sounds like a great novel or movie. Care to share abit more?

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RE: Serving multiple masters - 3/28/2005 10:46:29 AM   
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Before I was owned by two, I had no understanding of it either and pretty much dismissed it.

After experiencing it, I understand how it works and what it means, but I'm not really desiring of it again.

It helps that both times were with well-established couples. They had LOTS of experience at working together already, so that part was taken care of. Working together to own me was just an extension of what they were already doing.

As far as conflicts, those occur in any relationship and in any poly situation. As long as everyone understands the limitations of reality, and works with them to make everyone happy, it works out fine.

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