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redheadedfire4u -> RE: Do you need to be numb to survive in a poly relationship? (11/15/2005 8:19:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phoenxx

Trying to get your goat is something my 16 year old step son does to me. The more I don’t let him get my goat, the faster he is learning to stop it.
I think the fact he has started hanging out with kids a year or two older and much more mature is helping also…
If you had agreed to this type of behaviour, that would be one thing. If however, it is doing long term harm to you, be it physical or mental, it needs to stop.
It’s not a question of if poly’s are right for you… it’s a question of if any relationship with these people are right for you.
People move from perceived pain to perceived pleasure. If your not getting the type of pleasure you need, be it cuddles or beatings, you will move from it.
My advice, for what it is worth, sit down and let them both know what is happening and how you are feeling. If they ignore you, or nothing changes, you need to look inside and see if this is somewhere you want to be or if getting out is the best thing for you.
But being numb… that is never a good thing.
As for people saying you need to “suck it up”, isn’t helping those we have power over one of the most important things we should be doing?
Tony



This pretty much sums up my thoughts (except mine is a 17yr old daughter) , I have been a victim, I am no longer a victim, I took down the sign above my head and ritualistically burnt the damm thing just to make sure I remembered not to become one again. Being a victim in my experience will never make you happy. Take care of yourself and find what is best for you.
warm smiles to all




Karmicjustice -> RE: Do you need to be numb to survive in a poly relationship? (11/18/2005 2:57:53 AM)

Do you have to be numb to survive a poly relationship? That is a good question.

Here is my take on the subject. If you have to make yourself numb to "survive" a poly relationship, then you probably shouldn't be in one. I have struggled to make myself numb so that I can give up the man I love to his new submissive. I cannot survive a poly relationship. It is tearing me up inside. I love him. He needs her. He wants her. That hurts. When something hurts, you take steps to protect yourself. I have been taking steps to protect my heart, and the end result is that I will be giving this man up.

Someone once told me that when you first meet a person and they tell you that they are really a messy person, or a selfish person, or irresponsible, that you are probably getting the most honest assessment of that person you will ever get from them. If a person tells you, "I am poly" or "I could never live with poly"....thinking you will change their minds is just setting yourself up for heartache later, because even if they can put that aside for awhile, eventually, their true heart will win over the "pretend or conforming" facade they have adopted to cope.

In my situation, there will be no ultimatums, no fighting, no knashing of teeth, and no compromises offered or accepted....I will quietly bow out. I know this post is a bit of a departure from where the original post started, but.....the title fit SO WELL! LOL




softsilkandlace -> RE: Do you need to be numb to survive in a poly relationship? (11/19/2005 11:24:00 PM)




I have been away for 3 weeks taking care of an ill family member. On my return this weekend I reviewed my post and all of the replies. I had to refer back to my orginal post because several times I was confused by the replies, incorrect statements were made. I asked myself "Did I say that" . Which was good in a way, I pondered my situation over in my head again and decided perhaps Timothy's suggestion would be helpful.

"What are some tips for maintaining my composure and remaining pleasing to master when he's in the mood to 'get my goat'?"
Timothy [/quote]

I do want this relationship to work. If it doesn't hurt my self esteem or put me in a mental situation that I can not handle, than I am more than willing to DO what ever it takes to make this work. He is a GREAT man and well worth the fight, even it the battle is internal on my behave.


So with that being said, I will post the question again that Timothy preposed would be better asked and look forward to reading your answers on my next return home.

"What are some tips for maintaining my composure and remaining pleasing to master when he's in the mood to 'get my goat'?"
Timothy [/quote]






crystalamber -> RE: Do you need to be numb to survive in a poly relationship? (11/21/2005 2:37:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phoenxx

Most victims of abuse find it nearly impossible to leave. To say suck it up, get over it, stop snivelling etc.. etc.. shows a lack or understanding of the basics of abuse.
During repeated cycles of violence there is a Tension Building Phase, during which there are increased stress levels, anger, blaming and arguing. The explosion occurs during the Battering Phase, when the actual violence occurs. This phase does not necessarily last for a long time, but its intensity could result in serious injuries. Attacks by "intimates" on women result in more injuries requiring medical treatment, than rapes, auto accidents and muggings combined. The last part of the cycle is the Honeymoon Phase, where the abuser may deny, minimize or excuse his actions, apologize, and promise that it will never happen again. This technique, used by abusers to keep their victims confused and under control, is often compared with the techniques used toward hostages of war.
That was taken from the Project Safe web site. Sure, she could be here whining to get attention, or it could be she is asking for advice and help. Without knowing both sides, the best advice I would give is to explain how she is feeling. A good Top will take their bottoms’ feelings and needs into consideration. And no I am not saying to drop everything and be topped from the bottom. I am talking about doing what is best for the growth and needs of all those involved. Including saying sorry this not a relationship we can have.
In looking for a poly, I have had to say no a couple of times. Some relationships are just poisonous. And you need to just walk away.
If these people will not talk, or try to make changes in the relationship then I would say move on.
If you are having trouble talking to them try writing a letter. Explain how you are feeling and why. It may be worth checking out a KAP counsellor in your area. And talking to them.
Hope this helps…
Tony




and, let me reiterate ---- "Most victims of abuse find it nearly impossible to leave."

i have been in several vanilla abusive situations. .....yes, it's a very hard thing to learn. and life tends to repeat situations until you DO learn from them.

i like to think that i HAVE finally learned my lesson, and i will find better situations now.
sweetie, you are not wrong, there is nothing wrong with you, this is not your fault.

if you have talked to this guy about your concerns, and things have not changed, he's not concerned with your comfort and happiness. i agree with others, get out. don't let them know first, they would try to smooth things over, make you feel better about THEM. you need to feel better about YOU. i know how hard it is, i had to tell my last ex to get out of MY house. if you feel you don't have anywhere to go....do you have friends or family you can go to? if you need to, please go to a women's shelter.

you do have the strength to handle this. you are a special person.

much respect,
crystal amber




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