MrThorns
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ORIGINAL: IronBear
The only thing I find difficult to swallow if when the originator of a thread gets abusive or peeved when people disagree with the OP...
Amen! I'm in no way opposed to fierce argument, and there is a difference between solidly defending an argument with informed debate... and attacking a person and/or their character just because their opinion differs from yours.
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ORIGINAL: Guilty1974
Because there's no consensus on most things when BDSM is concerned
You're absolutely right. There isn't. To be honest, I am enthusiastically happy that there isn't. Sure, there may be some things that are common within our relationships, wether you consider yourselves; Gorean, "BDSMers", followers of SSC or RACK, have a contract or not, sub or slave, switch or subdistic, Top or bottom, etc... it's absolutely wonderful for me to know that there is no single rulebook by which to live within my relationship.
But your response really has little to do with why people feel they can express an opinion and not receive fallout for it. Welcome to the boards though.
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Nope, haven't noticed any trend. Yet at the same time I haven't been here all that often by my own choice.
Being a victim makes for nice publicity too bad those who really are worth a damn will dismiss them for doing so.
By the way are you away? I know it was your last Christmas home for two years.
The "Trend": (Although that term may not be entirely appropriate...even though every time I pop in to see what's going on in the forums, I see the same damned argument...just under a different title.) An argument begins with a blanket statement such as "Anything other than SSC is abusive". A common response is, "Horseshit." (I'm paraphrasing, by the way.) The OP's counter is, "Help help, I'm being flamed for having an opinion."
Granted, saying that someone's opinion is "Horseshit" is not particularily diplomatic... nor is it good debate. (Regardless of how accurate it may be to call "Horseshit.")
As for being away...I'm home for a little while yet.
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Original: MHOO314
We were in America, where we have free speech
Opinions are just those and nothing more, everyone is entitled to them
Stupidity is a subjective term
BDSM experience as deemed by another is subjective
Now given those key points, your issue is?
Yes, many of us live in America where we do have free speech. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be held accountable for that speech, does it? If you have an opinion on something...awesome! Share it! But don't hide behind your right to free speech by trying to limit the speech of someone else because they disagree with your position.
Stupidity can be subjective...yes. But I think there is probably some common form of stupidity that we could all agree on.
"BDSM experience as deemed by another is subjective"... as I mentioned online vs real time experience, I really don't see how this "key point" is accurate. Do you mean to say that one hour of practicing with a bullwhip is as valuable as reading about bullwhips? I do understand what you are saying, and I do understand the value of knowledge and experience in all of it's forms...but I don't think your statement is related to my comments about 100,000 posts and real time experience. (But hey, it's my opinion...and I won't be offended if you call "Horseshit" on it.)
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Original: submotive
Ya mean like this???
Was this response an attempt at comedy? Please feel free to expand upon your statement so that it becomes relevant.
Slavejali, thank you for the list of observations. (I think I fall under #s 7 and 11)
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Original: Level
I agree with your points, but one thing I would add is that some of those that say "we're all entitled to our opinions" get their panties in a knot when someone else's opinion is critical of them and/or their opinion. (I'm not "pointing my finger" at you with that comment, btw
This is exactly what I meant when I started the post. (I don't think I had enough coffee in my system when I got to typing this morning...hence all the grumble, grumbling). Thank you for clearly stating what I appearantly couldn't.
Looking forward to reading more...
~Thorns
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