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BDSM Lifestyle/ Domestic Abuse in News - 2/10/2006 5:32:40 PM

Annonymous123

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Found these links very interesting. Is this what our lifestyle is coming to?

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16102112&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=8

http://www.capwiz.com/politicsol/webreturn/?url=http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat

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RE: BDSM Lifestyle/ Domestic Abuse in News - 2/10/2006 5:36:36 PM

Annonymous123

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Follow up....sorry, the second article:

http://www.capwiz.com/politicsol/webreturn/?url=http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat

doesn't link directly. Click on "news", then story "Protective order denied under "slavery contract".

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RE: BDSM Lifestyle/ Domestic Abuse in News - 2/10/2006 9:39:20 PM

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It's always so hard to comment on these types of stories without any real knowledge of what happened between these two people. I like that the judge gave some weight to the contract though.

On the other hand, punching a woman so that she lands against a door and is knocked out is battery worthy of a charge that should stick if the act is uncontested. Classic situation: you shove or hit someone causing them to lose balance and injure themselves in an even more serious manner than you intended by hitting themselves on some subsequent object. Seriously uncool thing to do to anyone, esp. someone in your care.

Personal rule: never strike anyone in anger. Violence is for premeditated activities (e.g. BDSM) or for self-defense only. Even discipline should be carried out as a premeditated act and without anger - you do it because it is instructive not because it's an emotional release of anger.

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RE: BDSM Lifestyle/ Domestic Abuse in News - 2/16/2006 5:21:34 PM

slavejali

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I agree, its hard to comment, but I do have a story to share, kinda similar:

Master told me about this:

He knew a couple who had met online. Been together online for a long time, playing around with typed words etc. Supposedly sharing their kinks and fantasies and designing their relationship and what they would do when they met etc etc etc.

When they finally met and started playing, The *Dom* did exactly what they had been discussing online for ages, that they had both agreed to. I cant remember what it involved exactly...but anyways..the girl had marks and went to the police and reported him for abuse stating, "she didnt realise it was really going to hurt" (ugh doh)

I'm not typing this out to discuss safety aspects or whatever...but just from the persepective of Doms, we hear so much of the risks for slaves and submissives...but really all it would take is a submissive or slave to not like how things went, or freak out or whatever and go to the police with *marks* to show of their abuse...Doms really take a chance too.

In one way I was glad to see the Judge took the flavour of the relationship into account, although like I said in the beginning, its very difficult to know what really happened unless we were there.

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RE: BDSM Lifestyle/ Domestic Abuse in News - 3/8/2006 7:30:14 AM

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The article reads:
Attorneys Don Groshong, who represented Meyer, and Miranda Nickelson, who represented Webb, spent most of the hearing arguing about Groshong’s contention that the Jan. 11 incident was a form of contact incidental to the type of lifestyle agreed on in the "contract."

This is a question of what constitutes BDSM vs. domestic abuse. Since this incident appears to have ocurred as a result of an argument and appears to be non-consentual, the courts should recognise domestic abuse as domestic abuse and not as BDSM which is consentual. This is what separates Dominants from common criminals . . . consent.
Domestic abuse is not BDSM. Domestic abuse is (however) a crime and should be treated as such regardless that the perpetrator/victim prefer a BDSM lifestyle.

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