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needle play - 12/20/2005 3:54:49 PM   
Notanaddict


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why is needleplay considered "edgy" play? is it because the skin barrier is broken and there is blood involved? can't that happen with everything? I would think that flogging done correctly, or uncorrectly (depends what u're looking for) can cause bleeding, or at least minor abbrations that can fascilitate bodyfluid exchange and a potential infection?

Its just wierd to me, as it was the first thing i was ever introduced to within bdsm, and i don't see it as either scary or painful...maybe ithelps we were both nurses?
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RE: needle play - 12/20/2005 4:34:07 PM   
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why is needleplay considered "edgy" play? is it because the skin barrier is broken and there is blood involved? can't that happen with everything? I would think that flogging done correctly, or uncorrectly (depends what u're looking for) can cause bleeding, or at least minor abbrations that can fascilitate bodyfluid exchange and a potential infection?

Its just wierd to me, as it was the first thing i was ever introduced to within bdsm, and i don't see it as either scary or painful...maybe ithelps we were both nurses?


I don't really consider needle play as edgy, but it does seem to boost the apparent endorphine level in some people all out of proportion with the degree of "stimulation" (eg pain) involved. It may be the body's reaction to the primary defense, skin, being breeched.

Of course, it can also be intensely painful. There's a fictional version of needle scene-ender in the story The Brat on my website.




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RE: needle play - 12/20/2005 5:44:51 PM   
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I would conject that needleplay gets put in the edgeplay box for most people because it is bloodplay by design. It's damn near impossible to do it without any blood at all, as opposed to impact play where keeping it bloodless is easy if you have a little skill.

However you will of course discover over time that one person's edgeplay is another persons standard play.

One other thing that comes to mind as to why needleplay would be considered edgey is the fact that needles are an invassive type of play as mentioned they actually enter the body. That may be for many the reason they create such a facination and a reaction beyond the expected level as John mentioned. Add to that the psycological impact that drawing blood has being a very visual image for life. and you have a pretty good case for many people seeing it as edgey.

Then of course you have the image of risks taken into account, ie pathenogens

But overall while I consider needleplay to be an "advanced skill" I don't consider it really edgeplay.

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RE: needle play - 12/21/2005 1:06:38 PM   
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I think needle play is edge play especially when He is sewing the labia lips together

yes definite edge play


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RE: needle play - 12/22/2005 10:49:13 AM   
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Normally just comes from those a bit less experienced with it. Plus many have an irrational fear of needles anyway so it just adds to that.

When done properly and in a sanitary way it is near harmless and less likely to leave perm marks than , lets say, a heavy flogging but if not done properly it's more likely to cause infections, spread disease, etc because it is entering directly into the bloodstream.

Again, to the trained and safe, not much risk. To Joe Junkie who happens to have some extra sewing kit needles around and decides to poke everyone in the club, it can be a lethal mistake.


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