ShadeDiva
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Joined: 3/31/2004 From: Sacramento, California Status: offline
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Well ... that little topic is what earned me a few curses for being a mouthy opinionated subbissive back when I was focusing on exploring only that side of my duality. I seemed to run across every freaking hooty pootooty struffed shirt dominants that would tell me I was a horrible little subbie because I flat out refused to call someone mistress or master, sir, ma'am, madame, etc when they demanded it, as well as completely dismissed the whole I must not cap my name and only cap the dominants to show my respect, and blah blah blah. And yanno, not ONE of them EVER was able to drudge up an answer to my one simple little question in the face of being told that I was disrespectful because I did not follow the *capping* rule and that the ONLY way a submissive could possibly show ANY respect to the dominants in that space was to cap their names. It would tend to go something like this, lol (waaaaaaay back when I was happy to waste my time with idiots, LOL) "You are sitting there telling me that unless I cap your name I can not resopect you for if I respected you then I would show this by capping your name ... correct? "So then I surmise what you are in effect are telling me is that capping equates respect? I see.... Hm. " "Sooo if your submissive or a submissive around you doesn't use that capped letter, and you see it as disrespectful - do you feel they need to be punished?" (and the answer was usually "yes, they deserve punishment." And when asked how they'd rate the punishment that neglecting to cap the letter would earn the submissive in their eyes, mild to severe - they tended to almost always say extreme or severe.) "I see, so not capping your name, just trying to clarify this for myself you see, equates disrespect which then deserves severe punishment?" To which they usually as a group would chime in yes - strange how they seem to usually travel and camp in packs lol. Now mind you, in my experience, it is almost *always* a "hardcore" dominant/submissive that are listing themselves as 24/7 old guard, no cyber - type of people telling me how much I'm *not* a submissive, so it was with great pleasure I would spring *the question* on them after giving them all that rope ... "So let me see if I have what you are telling me straight, cuz Im just trying to learn here ... you are a 24/7 old guard r/t only person that expects every single submissive you ever meet to lowercase their name and uppercase ALL dominants names at ALL times or it equates complete and total intentional disrepect which would then merit instant and severe punishment for intentional insuborindation, yes?" "Ahh I see. Um so tell me, how do you determine when a submissive says master or mistress or sir or maam or their names with a capped letter or a lowercase in real life? Is there some special pronouncation that allows you to determine if they are speaking with a capped letter or lowercase letter in the appropriate place?" "No? Ah I see, so when a submissive addresses you in real life, you have NO way of determining if they are speaking your name or title with uppercase letters?" "I didn't think so. Well, um, then, just how in the world can you possibly immediately punish them severely if they are actually speaking your name or title with lowercase letters? Arent they then getting away completely with their deliberate and intentional insubordination?" "No? Well however could you possibly determine they are being respectful or showing respect in REAAAL LIFE - if you can't tell when they are speaking a title or name with the appropriate and *required at ALL times* lowercased or uppercased letters? "Oh, their *conduct*? Their behavior? Interesting. So why can't simple behavior or conduct show respect online? Why is it reduced to mere letters if you are real life only, can't you determine if someone is addressing you with respect by the rest of their words online like you do in real life where you can't *see* uppercased or lowercased letters?" That's usually when I'd get banned from the channel or room for being disrespectful. LOL. Yanno respect is shown in how you conduct yourself over the passage of time, and in NO other way. Any symbol of respect that is asked or demanded - is exactly that - just a symbol. It doesn't mean you really do respect them at all. I've seen submissives say the required words in the required spelling and be completely disrespectful in context while being able to literally claim they had written their words in a respectful manner - when in fact it was so far from respectful it was almost funny. Symbols mean *nothing* unless the intent is there, and if the intent is there, symbols aren't really needed at *all*. The trappings aren't what I'm interested in, what I am interested in is the underlying motivation, intent, and thought. I don't need a pretty wrapping to appreciate a birthday gift given to me anymore than I need words to be wrapped in a certain way to determine if they respect me. Cuz if they respect me, that WILL shine through. I'm kinda of the opinion that if you don't do it in real life, or it isn't required then you don't do it or need it online. So yanno that also applies to the act of trolling... if you wouldn't walk into a full room of complete strangers in real life and holler at the top of your lungs: MALE 34 SEEKING CBT HUMILIATION AND DIRTY TALK IF YOU ARE INTERESTED COME TALK TO ME AND WE'LL HAVE A HOT NIGHT - then why would you do that online? Because the same reaction you would expect from a real life packed room in response to that action is the SAME EXACT reaction you will get from a packed cyber room. lol ~ShadeDiva
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