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RE: Books!!!! - 2/21/2005 11:44:41 PM

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The Manipulated Mind: Brainwashing, Conditioning and Indoctrination,

This sounds interesting I love the psychological aspect!
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RE: Books!!!! - 2/22/2005 5:43:14 AM

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This is a wonderful thread and a great resource.

A bit off topic, but I have just finished "The Sociopath Next Door", by Martha Stout, which is FASCINATING. I have an in-law that we always referred to as "sociopathic", without really knowing what that means. Ooooh, baby, what an eye opener. I stayed up late and read right through. She does kinda go on and on with clinical analysis at times, but it offered me some excellent insight into what makes my in-law tick (like a time bomb, it seems).

According to the author, there are seven signs of Antisocial Personality Disorder, any three of which could result in that diagnosis. My in-law nailed it 7 for 7!

1. Failure to conform to social norms; 2. Deceitfulness, manipulativeness; 3. Impulsivity, failure to plan ahead; 4. Irritability, aggressiveness; 5. Reckless disregard for the safety of self or others; 6. Consistent irresponsibility; 7. Lack of remorse after having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another person

Now I need a "light read" to get my mind off the ceiling - mebbe "Screw the Roses?"

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/22/2005 6:36:55 AM

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ive read some really good books since christmas

one that was outstanding was "when things fall apart" by pema chodron its a book about learning to live w/ what you have and how fear and pain are the tools that help you rather then paralylize you . i highly recomend it.
~fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth ~ (a quote from the book )

i read the anne rice "beauty series , they were excellent as well.
my new fav "bathroom read" is "101 damnnations" its 101 short stoies that are hysterical.

and last but not least , my oldest son bought me a book for christmas called "why a son needs a mom" it was a book of quotes that were eye opening .

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/22/2005 12:02:57 PM

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1. Failure to conform to social norms; 2. Deceitfulness, manipulativeness; 3. Impulsivity, failure to plan ahead; 4. Irritability, aggressiveness; 5. Reckless disregard for the safety of self or others; 6. Consistent irresponsibility; 7. Lack of remorse after having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another person

I have been involved with one women like this a true sociopath. I liked her since high school for being a "bad girl" type. She wound up in prison a few times since. She got diagnosed in prison as a sociopath.
She was good at convincing people that she had changed and then would do something terrible later on. Usually petty stuff like shoplifting or stealing money from an employer she never considered the logical outcome of her actions ever. The last time I talked to her on the phone almost two years ago she was about have a kid. Scary

I loved her for being a rebel but her destructive side was too much for me.
she seemed to like me becuse she could control me easy but now looking back i wonder if she can "like" or love anyone for real.

On the book topic I picked up one called a History of Torture by George Riley Scott.
I know scary and historical not kink but it fascinates me.

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/23/2005 11:16:34 PM

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Alright, (big sigh) I have read the beauty trilogy, I have read Keshiel's, and the Story of O, not to mention the Gor saga, but I have been to two book stores now and am having a god awful time finding some of these other books. ( pout) Not to mention the odd looks I am getting from customer service reps. I did find a new fiction book, Tie me up, Tie me down. I will let you know how it is when I am done with it *wink*

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/24/2005 12:01:03 AM

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The Manipulated Mind: Brainwashing, Conditioning and Indoctrination,

This sounds interesting I love the psychological aspect!
mantis

LOL, a lot of BDSM (or any sex) is mental. Would you rather have a woman paddle you without setting a scene? Without saying anything beforehand.. plopping down on the edge of the bed and patting her lap? Or would you rather she talk you through it, tell you what a bad boy you've been, how she is going to spank the slut right out of you? Have her rub your butt and tell you how it is glowing red; telling you that you're taking these marks to be worthy of her.. Having her tell you how tingly spanking you is making her. How hot she is getting.

The one that engages your mind is the more intense scene. The better you understand what makes someone tick, the better you can engage them. Psychology books, to me, are bdsm books, LoL.

Another interesting read is Dick Sutphin's "The Battle for your Mind:
Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today" http://www.dicksutphen.com/html/battlemind.html The stuff in there should be required reading (and made sure they understand it) for every child before the Sat morn commercials between cartoons come on. Nothing like manipulating an innocent mind. :-(

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I loved her for being a rebel but her destructive side was too much for me.

Yes, people tend to be attracted to strong personalities. It explains why those hot, sexy girls in high school ended up with the total idiots who weren't worthy of them. We like the antihero, the "bad boy", the "bad girl". The person who is conflicted and tortured. They seem mysterious and exciting. Not all of us who are strong women have the problem with lack of social conditioning though, thankfully. You'll still be able to find a kinda "bad girl" who has the right edges to be trustworthy. It's just hard to find the bad girl with the heart of gold. :-) They don't come with labels and I don't know any tests for it. Oh, actually, the scoring on the Jung - Myers-Briggs personality indicator test might give you an idea, http://www.humanmetrics.com/ -mainpage ; http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp - direct link to test
or the The Keirsey Temperament tests. http://www.keirsey.com/ I understand that true psychopaths/sociopaths can sometimes be overlooked due to the fact they know how to mimic normal. There is a thread around here somewhere on Dom/sub personality types.. *looks it up to spare poor overworked proud* http://www.collarme.com/forum/m_51018/mpage_1/key_person/tm.htm

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/24/2005 2:54:52 AM

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They don't come with labels and I don't know any tests for it. Oh, actually, the scoring on the Jung - Myers-Briggs personality indicator test might give you an idea

ugh i took that test is gave me the creeps a bit ..i posted the resluts in that last thread you posted thread. i got this:

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The Counselor Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in reaching their goals, and directive and introverted in their interpersonal roles. Counselors focus on human potentials, think in terms of ethical values, and come easily to decisions. The small number of this type (little more than 2 percent) is regrettable,

very wierd

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/24/2005 3:27:53 PM

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The recent book I got was Ultimate Guide to Sexual Fantasy: How to turn Fantasy into Reality by Violet Blue. So far I love it!!

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RE: Books!!!! - 2/25/2005 10:59:57 AM

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LOL, do not feel bad. Both my sub and myself are also INFJ. It seems to be a prevalent personality type in BDSM. Taking into consideration that we introverts are more likely to end up in a less f2f setting such as the forums, the fact that INFJ is so highly represented and the other personality types more rare is a bit skewed. But even with that, the fact that something as rare in the general population is heavily represented in BDSM is significant to me.

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