LadyAngelika
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ORIGINAL: 2obeyU
I’ve read the responses with interest. Each is certainly valid from its writer’s perspective. My comments:
1. I am not eager – and I would not ask – to be castrated. When or if I am enslaved, I would consent to castration if my mistress/owner wanted me neutered – and if my consent was required. The reasons I suspect she might are explained in my original post.
As LadyBadger pointed out, nothing is guaranteed in life (except death, taxes and spam!). Just looking at the rate of divorce in your country and mine, I figure there are a whole lot of people who made the promise of “till death do us part” and later changed their mind about that one. Realise that if you let yourself be castrated, you’ll be giving up a whole lot more then words.
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2. I have no wish whatever to be feminized, much less to become a “woman” (an impossibility even with sexual reassignment surgery). The purpose of castration would be to achieve those goals by slashing the amount of testosterone my body produces.
Why is it that you consider becoming a woman an impossibility. Do you mean for yourself or in general? If you meant for yourself, no problem as you know yourself better then anyone here. But there have been many people who have been successful with the process.
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3. In my career I was ambitious and ruthlessly competitive. Steady discipline and punishment when merited might rein those qualities sufficiently to make me a useful slave. Or they might not. If they didn’t, my mistress/owner might or might not see castration as a way to mold me into what she wants.
There are less drastic and safer ways to mould someone. I have had male subs who never serviced me sexually and even put chastity devices on them to make it very painful for them if they did get erections. That was edgy for them and drove the message home.
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4. My ideal mistress/owner would be an exuberant sadist. If she enjoyed torturing testicles more than having an entirely submissive slave – and if those were her alternatives – then of course I’d expect, and want, to remain whole. (Alas, in scouring CollarMe, I’ve found only two dominant women who seem “exuberantly” sadistic.)
Trust me, there are a whole lot more of us then you think ;)
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5. I’m surprised that so many dominant women on CollarMe want a submissive or slave with whom they can experience intercourse. All my BDSM sessions have been with prodommes. Only one has permitted any sort of sexual pleasuring. That said, I’d point out that castration does not necessarily render a man incapable of erections.
Check out the thread on Dommes and penetration.
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6. My surprise also reflects my recognition that – however aggressive a woman may be – the acts of penetration and pounding are inherently dominating; and being penetrated and pounded is equally submissive. Even so strident a feminist as Camille Paglia has acknowledged, however ruefully, that most women love having their wrists held or tied above their heads during coitus. That is surely a manifestation of submissiveness.
That is such a black and white way of seeing the world… next you’ll tell me that if I have a man’s cock in my mouth I’m submitting to him.
Domination and submission are states of mind boy…
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7. Though one is primarily a means of obtaining money through sex and the other is not, I see parallels between prostitution and slavery. A whore “chooses” her pimp, just as a slave chooses his/her owner (assuming, in both cases, that the dominant one wants to control the other). In choosing, the whore or slave looks for qualities s/he wants in a pimp or owner. S/He may even set conditions under which s/he will serve – though once a whore is “copped” or a submissive is enslaved, the pimp or owner will do as s/he sees fit. Finally, both whores and slaves may be sold, traded, or given – or rented or lent – to other people; and they may also be set free.
First of all, I find it highly unlikely that a prostitute “chooses” her pimp. If a prostitute had her own choice, she’d be self-employed or in another field all together.
Insofar as your information regarding the selling and trading of slaves and whores, I think you will find that in the Western world, it is not a common BDSM practice to do so (I’m not saying it is never done, I’m just saying that it isn’t common.)
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8. All the same, the differences between prostitution and slavery are greater than the similarities. A whore does not sign a contract; a slave does – or should. A whore can easily escape, even if only to the stable of another pimp; a slave’s contract should provide sanctions for attempted escape or for the aftermath of her/his recapture or voluntary return. A whore may be mutilated, but usually only as punishment; a slave can be bonded to her/his owner in rites that include body modification: brandings, tattoos, and piercings as well as castration and other amputations.
See my comments to point #7.
2obeyU… you seem to have some extreme desires (from your post here and from reading your profile). I don’t judge you for them but do realise that even in this marginalised society, you seem to push things one step further then most. That doesn’t make more or less “true” or “real”, just more extreme. And in the end, if it makes you happy, more power to you ;)
- LA
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