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DiannaVesta -> RE: Is Elise Sutton right? (3/1/2006 6:21:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

DiannaVesta--Thanks for sharing/ re-posting that material. A follow up question or two, if you'll indulge one. A key difference I perceive in your writing/ philosophy from Elise Sutton's is that Sutton seems to believe that Female Supremacy actually represents the "correct" natural order. That is, it's not just a potentially good idea and alternative cultural viewpoint, but really the way the world "should be."

Is that something you ascribe to, or is your brand of female dominance more of a personal orientation?

Many of the female dominants on this board seem to be as likely to be dominant towards other women as to men. Is that the case with you as well?

Thanks again-- ATP



I would lie if I said I didn’t wish it were that way. Any culture wants to project itself and become more realized. Still I also appreciate the differences in the world. There are millions of plants and species in this world yet categorized in general they are different. We are all human and yet we are all different socially, culturally & intellectually. I believe my views tend to lean more metaphysically then absolute. The big picture I have has no gender nor does it have dark or light, good or evil, yet in this here and now, on this plane I deal with many circumstances which are the lessons God, Goddess, all that Is, The One, places before me bring me closer to that BIG picture where we are all one… no different, all connected, no one superior.

So my work on this plane…in this here and now is to strive for balance through ritual, symbols, extremes & whatever measures I feel are necessary. I am also a creature of pleasure and this brings me pleasure. Still I remain focus on the big picture. This is my world and the dimensions I live in. This is the reality I create. To think that it’s the only one or the only choice would be foolish. I know better then this that is why I respect all points of view, however I will not support blatant ignorance and prejudice towards another choices.

As for dominating women… once again it’s not gender specific. It’s about feminine priorities and the paradoxical shift that allows us to appreciate one another without the fucked up society rules of what men and women SHOULD be. We will always struggle with this because it’s ingrained into our psyche. The words, extremes, ritual and daily practice help us escape that to a degree. Does this make sense? For the men AND women who feel comfortable being loved & owned, cared and valued but a strong dominant woman.




cloudboy -> RE: Is Elise Sutton right? (3/1/2006 7:02:35 AM)

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I'm assuming you are talking about Clara Harris. She ran over her cheating husband three times in her Mercedes-Benz in Houston, Texas. She was convicted and got 20 years.


The question is, was she related to JEAN HARRIS:

http://www.catholic.org/ae/tv/review.php?id=18585






MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Is Elise Sutton right? (3/1/2006 8:04:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
lol- I know MrD I thought about a link but then I would be accused of promoting my commercial venues. I get enough shit as it is. So did you read it all?? lol

I'll be honest with you Dianna, I got to the fifth paragraph and thought I'd skim down.....
and down......
and down......
and down......
and still down some more..........
When I finally got to the end I said to myself "Ain't no bloody way I'll read all of that tonight. Or even this week." LOL But I will have to read it though. If for nothing more then to just get a better handle on the Fem. Supremist point of view.




DiannaVesta -> RE: Is Elise Sutton right? (3/4/2006 6:09:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44


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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
lol- I know MrD I thought about a link but then I would be accused of promoting my commercial venues. I get enough shit as it is. So did you read it all?? lol

I'll be honest with you Dianna, I got to the fifth paragraph and thought I'd skim down.....
and down......
and down......
and down......
and still down some more..........
When I finally got to the end I said to myself "Ain't no bloody way I'll read all of that tonight. Or even this week." LOL But I will have to read it though. If for nothing more then to just get a better handle on the Fem. Supremist point of view.



Thank you for that respect and consideration MrD. I knew it was long, it's an article. I think it says alot about the type of man you are, having a different lifestyle then mine and yet keeping an open eye to the rest of the world without passing judgement.

Dianna




TexasMaam -> RE: Is Elise Sutton right? (3/4/2006 8:47:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

I've been reading Elise Sutton's articles concerning her theories on female supremacy, and why she believes it represents the natural order.

From what I can determine from communities such as collarme.com, however, there appear to be as many, if not more, submissive females as dominant ones out there. I don't find Ms. Sutton's explanation of submissive females as anomalies/ anachronisms particularly persuasive.

What's your take on this topic?

ATP


My take is:

Elise has Her views; I have Mine.

Doesn't mean She's 'right', doesn't mean I'm 'right', it means we each have our views.

Like as not, for every Elise Sutton, and every Texas Maam, and every Miss Tress, and every GoddessDustyGold, and every IronBear, and every John Warren, and every other member at CollarMe, there will be those who concurr with our 'views' and who will gravitate towards us as a result.

Silly question, Aimtoplease1. Silly.

Texas Maam




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