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BalletBob -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/4/2006 3:32:39 PM)

Hi Tasha/ Speak of Dressing up, you need a nice pair of Keds Champions or White Mary Jane Sneakers. I think you would look much better in them, than those Heavy Sneakers.

Needing some new White Keds Champions, BalletBob



tasha_tart -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/4/2006 6:37:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BalletBob

Hi Tasha/ Speak of Dressing up, you need a nice pair of Keds Champions or White Mary Jane Sneakers. I think you would look much better in them, than those Heavy Sneakers.

Needing some new White Keds Champions, BalletBob

Though they may look heavy in the picture, they are women's Nikes and probably the lightest pair of shoes I've ever owned. Maybe the most comfortable too, which was a definite bonus after walking the Pride parade in Toronto last June.

Tasha



seaturtle50 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/4/2006 7:12:22 PM)

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st, Thanks for the response. you have touched on another thing about cross dressing that I have never understood...and I have seen others write about it but never got an explanation that works: If Female clothing is either "power clothing" or even symbolic of the female you adore, why is it humiliating to wear? Should be empowering, no?

Smythe


Yes, i see your point. First, for me, i made mention of a sort of "transition" that i notice happening to my perceptions of this. From the enticement of the femininity to the awe of "power garb." Largely, at this point, i am unsure of the outcome, or my eventual understanding of the what and why of it. Too soon to tell.

i would not feel embarrassed if i were alone with Her. That would cause no shame or bad feelings for me at all. i suppose i would feel it in the presence of others, especially if i viewed them as not being "in touch" with such things. Not understanding. Quadruple that if it were in front of nilla men. Why? Don't exactly know; have not really thought about the why of it. The feelings of in front of the latter are sufficiently uncomfortable for me to usually immediately change my train of thought. [8|] It must however have something to do with what I think - they think - of such behaviors. As well as their expected crass reaction to it.

i will be happy to give this some thought though - and shall report my conclusions.

st50



ShivaTS -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/5/2006 5:10:35 PM)

I guess I should say something. Being able to cross dress or go further to come out a a transsexual takes more more courage than alot of people have. To be identified as something completely different than what you are used to is one aspect. People that know you are a guy/girl and see you as a girl/guy now is very humiliating. Aleast for me I want to be known as a woman and not as a man. To simply show up one day looking like a woman but everyone treating you like a man hurts alot. Plugging through it and finally getting the respect of people around to treat me like a woman was a tough time and there were many bumps in the road. I am living fulltime as a woman and even to this day I still get hit with OMG thats a dude! Ive had the crap kicked out of me but the worst part is aspiring to be a woman and having other women put me down. I try to be honest about who I am when I am looking for a relationship and get dumped on in every community, even the ones that say we are welcome. Its now a fact of life for me. I applaud every cd male or female for taking the plung and sticking with it through the crap.



cloudboy -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/5/2006 5:23:33 PM)


Yes, I can see how you get if from all sides. In TransAmerica, the main character was asked by her horrible mother how she planned to rear her son. The TS responded that she planned to treat him with respect and support ---- clearly the two things lacking from her own family.



Smythe -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/5/2006 5:26:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShivaTS

I guess I should say something. Being able to cross dress or go further to come out a a transsexual takes more more courage than alot of people have. To be identified as something completely different than what you are used to is one aspect. People that know you are a guy/girl and see you as a girl/guy now is very humiliating. Aleast for me I want to be known as a woman and not as a man. To simply show up one day looking like a woman but everyone treating you like a man hurts alot. Plugging through it and finally getting the respect of people around to treat me like a woman was a tough time and there were many bumps in the road. I am living fulltime as a woman and even to this day I still get hit with OMG thats a dude! Ive had the crap kicked out of me but the worst part is aspiring to be a woman and having other women put me down. I try to be honest about who I am when I am looking for a relationship and get dumped on in every community, even the ones that say we are welcome. Its now a fact of life for me. I applaud every cd male or female for taking the plung and sticking with it through the crap.



Well, I applaud you for the same thing and I admire your determination. Thanks for the response; it truly does help me understand how much courage is involved for you to just be who you are.

Smythe





diaperedbaby -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 8:24:55 AM)

I think some of it depends on how passable in public you are. If I dress reasonably conservative, no one says too much. Maybe a second look. If I dress kind of slutty, then people watch you more and are more critical.
For me, the kink is only in it sometimes. Alot of that as well depends on who your with or the place you are at.



BalletBob -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 4:19:52 PM)

Hey Tasha. Well I still think ou would look bedter in the Keds, but then again, I am old fashion.

Do you have any Mary Janes?

In my Pink Ballet Slippers, BalletBob



Slipstreme -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 5:20:33 PM)

I don't CD, not because I don't want to, but I don't really care one way or the other. Im not your average female. I have my own style, that is more male anyway, always have been. I don't like being female and I hate all things considered girly, except scented candles and unique jewelry. However, I know I would not be happy male either, so I don't count myself as transgender, just genderqueer. If there were a herm or nongender option I would choose those before either male or female.

I am currently changing my wardrobe slowly however, to Goth/ punk, cause I like it. And yes I've found that takes a little courage cause the Goth is usually frowned upon as some "emo" freak, especially when I wear my collar (26in dog choke chain) in public. Yes I am the type that sees no D/s connections in collars and will wear them in public, given that they look nice with what I have.



tasha_tart -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 5:40:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BalletBob

Hey Tasha. Well I still think ou would look bedter in the Keds, but then again, I am old fashion.

Do you have any Mary Janes?

In my Pink Ballet Slippers, BalletBob


I do have a pair of Doc Mareten mary janes that work well with the "schoolgirl" look, but I've not worn them in a while.

I'll suspend judgement on the Keds, though...don't recall seeing Keds at all here in the great white north. [:)]

Take care...Tasha



Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 10:51:19 PM)

I have always imagined the 'difference' to how you feel inside, crossdressed, would be like me, when i majorly made over. Suddenly, i was noticed as a female, the attention was different. My whole social skills set was not adequate it seemed. I had to learn how to interact with other, that noticed your sexuality. Weird.

Forced crossdressing would be a wierded up head space for me. As such, i can appreciate some of the notion behind such play.
Personally driven cross dressing, i would hope, would feel 'right' and 'liberating'.

A really good friend of mine, cross dresses. I have caught him on occasion through the years. Perhaps because i have 'caught' him, rather than a disclosure, ive never been able to get passed his badly applied makeup. On the one hand, im completely weirded out, by my big brother figure in life, dressed and made up like a woman. On the other hand,I want to ask if he wants to look like a clown, or a woman?

I think to sit there, with a person who knows the man only, and see him dressed, as a online Domme has told him, is odd. For us both. More so me for some reason. But ill get my head round it eventually. My observable reaction, is one of acceptance. Im talking about my gut reaction.

little1




veronicaofML -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/6/2006 10:57:14 PM)

Im talking about my gut reaction.
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but what does your HEART say?
dont ya wanna go to yer friend and say hey yo...lemme help?




Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 2:01:13 AM)

of course i would. But he has not asked. And ive learnt over the years with my big baby brother figure, you dont butt in, till your invited[;)]



explords -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 10:31:28 AM)

Yes,

It does take courage and even more to post pictures of yourself sissified that show one's face. Though I get off on the humiliation aspect of it it takes alot of courage to actually do it.

sissyjeri



seaturtle50 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 11:16:17 AM)

quote:

If Female clothing is either "power clothing" or even symbolic of the female you adore, why is it humiliating to wear? Should be empowering, no?

Smythe


OK - i have given this some though, and as promised returned to tell. For me, the wearing of the clothing itself is not humiliating. It is also not empowering. It is the interaction with Her, and with others that will color the experience as either of those two things, or a mixture of both.

The clothing itself, to me, is so closely a part of femininity. It is feminine. That femininity is its allure. To be close to that. To be near that, as it "belongs" to Her, and is a direct reflection of that essence of Her. So, to this one yes, it is an aspect of Her, and somehow is then adored by me.

Just like nailpolish - to me it is strictly feminine, it is HERS. i have never worn any, would not really want to <meaning no thrill would be derived from it>, would not be embarrassed if i did in private with Her, but that would change if i had to wear it in public, especially around any who might not be quite open-minded.

So, my answer is – the cross-dressing itself is neither embarrassing nor empowering to this one.

<he thinks that one day he may regret typing these words [8|])
st50




veronicaofML -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 11:17:49 AM)

<he thinks that one day he may regret typing these words )
st50
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famous last words?
would you like a cigarette and a blind fold too?



Smythe -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 7:35:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: explords

Yes,

It does take courage and even more to post pictures of yourself sissified that show one's face. Though I get off on the humiliation aspect of it it takes alot of courage to actually do it.

sissyjeri



thanks, sissy. Nice shoes, by the way.
Smythe




Smythe -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 7:38:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

<he thinks that one day he may regret typing these words )
st50
========

famous last words?
would you like a cigarette and a blind fold too?





At least he'll go out looking pretty
Smythe





seaturtle50 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 8:48:19 PM)

quote:

would you like a cigarette and a blind fold too?


Already got a smoke, .... blindfold .... yes please.

st50



seaturtle50 -> RE: Courage and Cross Dressing (2/7/2006 8:49:26 PM)

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At least he'll go out looking pretty


Thank You Smythe,

Very nice of You to say so!
[8|]
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