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GayMan1969WpbFL -> Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/2/2006 11:29:52 PM)

Has anyone heard of a straight man taking control of/over a gay man for weeks or months? This deeply interests me. I wonder why the straight man would do it? For sadistic reasons? Does this usually involve chastity, sadism, BDSM, bondage, or just control scenes? Any input would be appreciated.
[:D] I am gay and can be either a Master or slave. Born 1969. I live in
West Palm Beach(WPB), Florida and travel a lot. If my profile interests you...lets talk.



Focus50 -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 2:49:51 AM)

Hi and welcome to the Forums.... However, a Moderator will probably be along to remind you that Forums are for discussion of BDSM topics, not an extension of your profile and what you personally seek....

As for your question.... I'm a straight Dom and I'll only consider a relationship (or even just casual play) with a *female* submissive. For me, dominance is an intricate part of my sexuality; it's not just some hat I choose to wear when the mood arises. D/s is how I express intimacy and not even a vanilla female can satisfy my needs - she's gotta be submissive, too!

But I only speak for myself. There may well be dom/mes into dominating any willing submissive regardless of gender - I'm NOT one of them....

Focus.



IronBear -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 4:17:51 AM)

It doesn't matter how you mix it with gender and sexual orientation, somewhere, sometime there will be a submission ot one person top another representing every possible combination for reasons as varied as there are possible combinations of BDSM. Yet one thing holds true.. If they are both happy with the situation then none have the right to interfere.



MasterRobert1 -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 5:04:09 AM)

I've trained several gay male subs. In fact, the Dom who tranined me was Old Style Leather and was gay. Don't see a problem. The principals of BDSM and D/s are exactly the same, whether straight or gay or poly or whatever.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 5:30:31 AM)

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GayMan1969WpbbFL: Has anyone heard of a straight man taking control of/over a gay man for weeks or months? This deeply interests me. I wonder why the straight man would do it? For sadistic reasons? Does this usually involve chastity, sadism, BDSM, bondage, or just control scenes? Any input would be appreciated.


It is not that uncommon.
The interaction that takes place between a top & bottom does not necessarily need to stem sexuality. For those that it does, they may not care for orientation differences & keep it on a strictly heterosexual level.

As for me, I have topped many gay men over the years & I have had them tell me that even though I was a woman they felt rather stimulated & this often had them questioning their response to my touch. I have also topped straight women with mutually enjoyable sessions where we each found stimulation in many ways outside of sexual pleasure. These thing we do trigger us on many levels, physically, mentally & emotionally. Each activity we do can produce different results with different people.

I think that we can all agree that a certain element of sexual stimulation can be created within physical interaction between two people (but keep in mind it is not limited to just this). I also do not feel that this should cause anyone to question how they identify no matter how firmly identify with their orientation. Just enjoy the exchange & enjoy the chance to broaden our otherwise referred to 'limits'.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 6:19:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GayMan1969WpbFL

Has anyone heard of a straight man taking control of/over a gay man for weeks or months? This deeply interests me. I wonder why the straight man would do it? For sadistic reasons? Does this usually involve chastity, sadism, BDSM, bondage, or just control scenes? Any input would be appreciated.

Yes.

Because they want to serve, and the sexual orientation is irrelevant to their service.

A relationship can include anything you want it to include.

Most people choose and consider only compatible sexual orientations. This is the main reason I think bdsm is sexual for the majority of people in the scene. However, there are people out there who will play with and become involved in a relationship with people who have non compatible sexual orientations.



MistressFire70 -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 7:02:56 AM)

I know plenty of people who have Ms relationships with people not of their sexual orientation, including het Males with gay males. These relationships are service, SM and spiritually motivated. What relationship is right for you will be defined by what you want out of the relationship.

Fire



thetammyjo -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 7:25:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressFire70

I know plenty of people who have Ms relationships with people not of their sexual orientation, including het Males with gay males. These relationships are service, SM and spiritually motivated. What relationship is right for you will be defined by what you want out of the relationship.

Fire



A few years ago the International master-slave couple was in fact a gay master and a lesbian slave. I've met them and heard them speak on a few ocassions and it was about the service, about the need to control and be control, not about sex. Yes, they did in fact have other sexual outlets (allowed by the master) for those particular needs but they have been together for many years now.

I've had relationships with bi and straight women both -- it was about learning and serving, about getting more experience, not about orgasms.

However my long term Ds relationships have only (to this point) been with bisexual men.

To me, their attitude toward me and toward BDSM and Ds was more important than what got them hard, wet, or off.



Unameme -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 3:42:22 PM)

I aggree with Lucky Abatross, Straight man or Gay Man outside of the confines of Bed room and Sexual gratification/fantasy.
Power and Control wrangling is all around us ,
In the Work place , The Military, Prison, Small and large Business's
Those in Authority whether Straight , Gay , Male , or Female
Have for weeks months years and lifetimes ,Controlled others,
Some tyranical , Some Benevelant,
The world is a kinky place, power plays going on all the time,
if you care to see the dynamic's .
I could see a Straight Dom, Male or Female, if presented with a Good Gay submissive,
not having a problem with using them for their advantage,
Not having sex with thier presented Gay submissive,
The question is How submissive is the submissive Gay or not, ?
And what assetts does the Gay submissive have to offer a Straight Dominant ?
Fantasies are nice, reality when it coincides with fantasies are Very Nice,
But submission is giving your best in any situation you find yourself, hehe
In peace an love Bluesmate






, aspect of
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: GayMan1969WpbFL

Has anyone heard of a straight man taking control of/over a gay man for weeks or months? This deeply interests me. I wonder why the straight man would do it? For sadistic reasons? Does this usually involve chastity, sadism, BDSM, bondage, or just control scenes? Any input would be appreciated.

Yes.

Because they want to serve, and the sexual orientation is irrelevant to their service.

A relationship can include anything you want it to include.

Most people choose and consider only compatible sexual orientations. This is the main reason I think bdsm is sexual for the majority of people in the scene. However, there are people out there who will play with and become involved in a relationship with people who have non compatible sexual orientations.




fastlane -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 4:41:00 PM)

is your first name BEN?

Fuck what everyone else thinks..BenGay

if it feels good...hump it!

Peace, kevin



Raphael -> RE: Gay man submitting to a straight man??? (2/3/2006 7:06:16 PM)

Kind of reminds me of the old joke... 'I'm not gay, but my boyfriend sure is!'




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