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comesoncommand -> does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/1/2006 8:27:49 AM)

Never having been in a poly relationship before, and envisioning a triad sort of poly...Master-female slave (me)-female slave (in future) i am curious...does it matter who brings the third? For those (both Master and slave) who have had experience with this type of relationship...is it a more positive experience either way? Or does it not matter? Reading the boards, it seems there are more problems between same sexes in the relationship, so it would seem to me that if the same sexes could start the getting to know and like each other part in the begining that would work well. Or is it possible to do it is a couple?




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/1/2006 8:30:26 AM)

Everyone's got their own way.

To me what matters is that everyone is on board in the same way. So it doesn't matter if you happened to stumble across them in the chat room, party or wherever first or if they did. If they seem interested and compatible, and everyone is actively interested in moving forward, that's what matters.

Some people prefer other ways. Lots of doms will order their slaves to go fish for new pussy- this has advantages and disadvantages. Find what works for you.




LadiesBladewing -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/3/2006 5:28:19 PM)

Our experience is that it really doesn't matter, as long as everyone involved is on the same page about things.

Where it -might- matter is if there are preconceived notions that -anyone- has about what it means to be brought into the family by a certain person. Prestige, self-esteem issues, fear, loneliness, and ego plays sometimes allow us to lie to ourselves about why we're getting involved in certain situations, and in doing so, it unbalances what may have been a completely synchronistic/random collection of events that put us in the right place at the right time for our happiness.

As an example of what I'm talking about, there are individuals who will enter a poly relationship if the dominant party asks, but would completely diss the idea if the submissive party or a 3rd party asked them whether they'd go poly... and for many of the individuals who would accept this kind of "qualified" invitation, there is often the small nudge in the back of the mind that says "see... that dominant person wants -me- more than he/she wants the submissive person he/she's already got, or I wouldn't have been asked to join up." Later, when this doesn't pan out, the illusion falls away and there is often a struggle with resentment or anger, or even a sense of being "deceived" and brought into the relationship under false pretenses.

The most important part of being part of a communal household is to be honest -not- with the other partners, but with oneself. In our eagerness to be part of -something-, we often don't listen to the voices inside of us that tell us whether or not we're ready for the challenges before us.

In the same way, if you are looking to increase your household, the best thing you can do is not to tell your prospectives about your family, but to welcome them into your home and then -listen-... hear how they interact, and how they talk about themselves, and about relationships. Listen to how they talk about the relationships they've been in before. Were they happy, even if the relationship didn't work out. Do they acknowledge their own part in the way any previous relationships ended. Do they genuinely want the best for their former mates, even if they are not a part of life with those people any more? Have they opened their hearts to trust -- do they -respect- themselves?

The questions about what makes a particular poly relationship work while others seem to founder revolve so much more around how much everyone is willing to -be- completely him or herself, how forthright each person has been, how willing each is to change and grow, and how willing, too each is to take the -risk- of really loving and caring, and putting the current paradigm that demands isolational and serial monogamy to the task.

Lady Zephyr

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ORIGINAL: comesoncommand

Never having been in a poly relationship before, and envisioning a triad sort of poly...Master-female slave (me)-female slave (in future) i am curious...does it matter who brings the third? For those (both Master and slave) who have had experience with this type of relationship...is it a more positive experience either way? Or does it not matter? Reading the boards, it seems there are more problems between same sexes in the relationship, so it would seem to me that if the same sexes could start the getting to know and like each other part in the begining that would work well. Or is it possible to do it is a couple?




Lordandmaster -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/3/2006 10:21:31 PM)

Well, the way I see it, if the master owns the slave, then the master is bringing the third regardless of whether it's the master or the slave who found her. Slaves are an extension of their masters because they do not doing anything their master does not authorize.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/3/2006 11:04:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Well, the way I see it, if the master owns the slave, then the master is bringing the third regardless of whether it's the master or the slave who found her. Slaves are an extension of their masters because they do not doing anything their master does not authorize.

True but that's stretching it. The master certainly allows the slave to be brought in and gives the authorizaation, but that doesn't mean the master was necessarily the one to go and get the other person, , make the first introductions and so on.




Larry862 -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/4/2006 12:00:15 PM)

The symantics of who was the one that brought forth the slave is un-important. In the past I have asked my slave(s) to bring another into the relationship. Not that they were soley the one searching but in addition to. I think personally that a Master is farther ahead if the one slave brings another forward into the relationship. This takes however a slave that has immense pride in her Master. It will not work if the currently slave is reluctant in any manner. I will always say that 2 women belonging to a Master is the ultimate. Even if should the 2 slaves not be Bi at all.... So many possibilities are opened with that combination....




MistressDREAD -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/11/2006 6:23:27 AM)


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I will always say that 2 women belonging to a Master is the ultimate

Ill take it that You are a Master Larry ? ~smiles~
The Dominance in My Home was a Triad made up of Two Masters and One Mistress.
The Alpha Master is the One who brought both Me and Our second Master to the fold.
All three of Us Owned several slaves of both genders. For Us it is/was always the
Dominants who brought any into the fold thru mutural agreement and proper mechanics
that the person concerned would blend and mix well with the standing Family in place,
however Our choices and desires to bring any more into the fold were made wholly
with in the Dominance end of discussion, the slaves dident have a say in what We wanted.
does it matter W/who brings the third?
It depends on the mechanics of Your Household. For Us it mattered in that only the Dominance
in the Home made such decisions. I know other Homes where the slaves make such choices.
But Our Home is Gorean as well and Dominance rules all aspects of it as such.




vibechild -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/23/2006 11:35:26 PM)

I'd say it depends on the relationship. In my current relationship, it doesn't matter at all. We have similar tastes, we're both comfortable with the idea, and we communicate well. However, in some past relationships, it was better when the girl would find the other girl. The initial attraction between them seemed to get rid of a lot of the competition. Assuming you have similar tastes I don't think he would mind having you find the third if it would make you more comfortable. So like everything else it comes back to you - do you feel more comfortable finding her yourself?




BearNFirelight -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/24/2006 2:33:24 PM)

We find it important that everyone is openly communicating and seeking the same thing first off. Those of the same sex need to find a bonding between them as well so there is an open and comfortable sharing of the other than a competitive one. Also it really helps if all involved are poly kind of people. If its just something one is doing to please another, I doubt it will work in the end. This is of course the hardest dynamic to make work in a lifestyle that is probably the hardest type to make work. There is no room for jealousy, lies, hidden feelings, resentments or excessive compromises. It's got to be part of who and what you are or it will be a constant battle to make work. Finding two of the three that can handle it is far more common than finding a third or fourth that can.

Your post says a lot for the right kind of attitude to get started. Nothing wrong with doing it as a couple. Our policy is never to meet anyone in person without us both being there. Who initiates the communication is not nearly as important as how the rt dynamic develops. If its poly, then make it poly and involve everyone with a stake in what is to develop.




nonuts4thshoney -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/26/2006 1:32:25 AM)

Since Master and i discussed the possibilty of going poly we both have been actively seeking a third. Master wants me to build relationships with others just as She does. She definitely has no problem with me making the first moves in contacting and speaking with other slaves. If i find someone that is of interest to me, i forward Her the profile :) So far it's been alot of fun speaking with others and i feel so lucky to have a Master that will alow me to explore the poly side with Her:) i really do not think it matters who brings the third. A connection between the three is all that should matter in my opinion.

-carolyn




RubberWitch -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/27/2006 7:50:53 AM)

I've always gone by the weakest link principle, in so far as a relationship which is instigated with a third by the primary partner who is least agreeable to it (even if it is by merest degrees) will last longer, and cause less damage to the primary bonding.

unfortunately, this does always rely on establishing a pecking order very early, and our third knows that the moment one of the tri gets bored of the situation, it's her thats out on her arse.

She accepts this, and works very hard to avoid the outcome.

J




Bunkerchief -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/28/2006 12:19:37 PM)


I had two separate relationships going, one BDSM scening relationship and a vanilla one. Both women knew about each other and were pretty loose about it. They actually got to meet each other at my workshop and took a liking to each other. My scening partner was sub and bi and saw the opportunity to expand the experience of our scenes, she basically seduced my vanilla friend which was fine by me and brought her into the scene. The fact my scening partner was bi really gave everything a balance. That lasted for a good six months before we sensed things were getting out of balance and decided to desolve the menage au trois so to speak. We all remain good friends and do scene with each other occasionally when we find ourselves in the same town.

If I took that road again I think I would try to get a threesome together in the same way with the same balance, simply because it worked so well and that is my experience.




sineight -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/28/2006 4:49:03 PM)

to me it wouldn't matter. the important thing would be that every one has an attraction to everone else.




FelinePersuasion -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (2/28/2006 4:57:05 PM)

For me of course it does. Since I am the one wanting a third, since joe doesn't want to take care of my knky needs. If joe was kinky and wanted a third for fun I'd pick her out, because I want to like them just as much as he would.




DarquedeSade -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (3/3/2006 5:53:59 AM)

For another sub (I don't do alpha,beta. etc) to join my House she must bond with my current little girl.

Darque




Kane -> RE: does it matter W/who brings the third? (3/5/2006 8:55:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: comesoncommand

Never having been in a poly relationship before, and envisioning a triad sort of poly...Master-female slave (me)-female slave (in future) i am curious...does it matter who brings the third? For those (both Master and slave) who have had experience with this type of relationship...is it a more positive experience either way? Or does it not matter? Reading the boards, it seems there are more problems between same sexes in the relationship, so it would seem to me that if the same sexes could start the getting to know and like each other part in the begining that would work well. Or is it possible to do it is a couple?


Although my submissive and I seek a third, she does the majority of the searching for reasons such as you have mentioned. It is important that there is little to no animosity amongst the group. It's very important to never play favorites and you must remain neutral though. It's important to have a high amount of open communication between you and your Master, you and the third, as well as the third and your Master.

Women tend to be very critical with one another so for you building a friendship first with a possible third is beneficial. Don't expect it to happen over night though. Even the best of friends can turn on one another.




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