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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 2/26/2006 2:45:59 PM   
MichMasochist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kindred2Evil

The biggest problem with coming up with a universal code to show your lifestyle is this...What about Sadist and masochists? And middles. Not switches (though there would be a problem there too)
Say you have a bisexual sado/masochistic middle who will play with either male or female. The twists and turns in WIIWD is limitless. Personally I wouldn't want to wear and arm full of leather bands to show what I am. But that's just me. Whatever is come up with needs to be something that won't draw alot of unwanted attention when one goes about town or to work or is around non-kink friend people. What I was taught was flagging, Dominant carries things like their keys or cellphones on their right side, submissive or slave on their left. It would be nice if you could just carry a flogger or whip or your toy of choice in a miniature version attatched to your beltloop all the time lol

That's why I like the triskele. My front plate on my truck has one on it along with an X that has silvery looking O rings hanging from the top corners of the X. Understated and yet I've gotten various comments from others who were into WIIWD and even from a few that were completely clueless.

And along these lines, does anyone know if there is a symbol for RACK?


This theme would carry threw to switches and persons of gay, or lesbian prefferrence. I have no idea of what you mean by middle? As for sadist and masochist, just substitute in appropriate group. As for being specific this layout is intended to signify general orientation, not specifics. Like a slave collar that signifies that the wearer is owned property of another. I think this would atleast take out most of the guess work while serving a an opening for a conversation between two persons or more of like kind interests.

Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

Right arm = Dominate or top. (Sadist)
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Both arms
>thin bands
-->interest in female domme or top or interest in female submisive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a lesbian switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a heteroexual switch.

>thick bands
-->interest in male dom or top or interest in male submissive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a heterosexual switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a homosexual switch.

>Both thick and thin bands
-->interest in both genders.
-----> This person wearing the bands being a switch and bi sexual

As example a woman wearing a thick band on her right arm and a thin band on her left arm would be signifying that:
>She is a dominate, or top, (sadist) towards or for a male bottom or submissive, (masochist). While being a bottom or submissive, (masochist) toward or for a female top or domme. and may or may not be bi-sexually orientated.

Let's face it the permutations to the equations are virtually unlimited. So let us not create a multi-dimentional array that is too complicated, or confusing. Let's leave it generalized, that a couple seeking out companionship can save time by seeing who is interested in what. Then to introduce themselves. From there on if the interested parties choose to discuse personal details, that are obviously of an intimate nature, they may follow threw with some comfort of know what the other party is open minded, towards.

Taking the idea to leather bands with stainless steel studs for S&M. Stainless steel snaps for B&D. Plain leather for D&S. Starts to and complexity like the leathermen colored hanky code. Your a a munch looking for that some one special. You see her a few feet away. Hmmm, Thick band on the right arm. My thin band on the left arm. Lets walk over and introduce myself and get to know her. Then, if we click, find out just what area of BDSM she is interested in.

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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 2/28/2006 1:43:04 PM   
porthuronsub


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I totally have to agree with Mistress Kris on proper spelling and grammer use. I cannot believe how many times I have started to read a profile and skipped over it after trying to decipher something that is simply not English. Is it that hard to pick up a dictionary? Did that many people really fall asleep in English class? I hated English class and the teacher, yet through the power of reading and college I think I am a pretty good speller now.

The excuse of just being typos is a lame excuse...are you that lazy that you cannot backspace. We are not instant messaging here.

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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 2/28/2006 4:58:55 PM   
MichMasochist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I totally have to agree with Mistress Kris on proper spelling and grammer use. I cannot believe how many times I have started to read a profile and skipped over it after trying to decipher something that is simply not English. Is it that hard to pick up a dictionary? Did that many people really fall asleep in English class? I hated English class and the teacher, yet through the power of reading and college I think I am a pretty good speller now.

The excuse of just being typos is a lame excuse...are you that lazy that you cannot backspace. We are not instant messaging here.



Everybody has thier fetish. Some its grammar and spelling. Personally I haven't read a post that I couldn't desifer (oops mispelled that word didn't I) subconsiously at least.
Ik ben benieuwd of zij die zo veel klagen hebben probleem met het denken, Nr?

A certain lady complaind to me that colour is spelled color. Maar ik zeg ja het is.



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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 2/28/2006 6:03:21 PM   
MistressLorelei


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I can't help but to gloss over the posts with incoherent thoughts, typos, and obvious misspellings. I have to wonder about the credibility of the source... or wonder if I really care or value what he/she is saying. Anyone has a right to post, just as I have a right to skip over the ridiculous ones in disbelief... which I do often.

Now where is that spellcheck button...

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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 2/28/2006 8:07:09 PM   
valeca


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MichMasochist




Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

Right arm = Dominate or top. (Sadist)
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Both arms
>thin bands
-->interest in female domme or top or interest in female submisive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a lesbian switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a heteroexual switch.

>thick bands
-->interest in male dom or top or interest in male submissive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a heterosexual switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a homosexual switch.

>Both thick and thin bands
-->interest in both genders.
-----> This person wearing the bands being a switch and bi sexual

As example a woman wearing a thick band on her right arm and a thin band on her left arm would be signifying that:
>She is a dominate, or top, (sadist) towards or for a male bottom or submissive, (masochist). While being a bottom or submissive, (masochist) toward or for a female top or domme. and may or may not be bi-sexually orientated.

Let's face it the permutations to the equations are virtually unlimited. So let us not create a multi-dimentional array that is too complicated, or confusing. Let's leave it generalized, that a couple seeking out companionship can save time by seeing who is interested in what. Then to introduce themselves. From there on if the interested parties choose to discuse personal details, that are obviously of an intimate nature, they may follow threw with some comfort of know what the other party is open minded, towards.

Taking the idea to leather bands with stainless steel studs for S&M. Stainless steel snaps for B&D. Plain leather for D&S. Starts to and complexity like the leathermen colored hanky code. Your a a munch looking for that some one special. You see her a few feet away. Hmmm, Thick band on the right arm. My thin band on the left arm. Lets walk over and introduce myself and get to know her. Then, if we click, find out just what area of BDSM she is interested in.


These are all well thought out, but they're all geared toward people actively seeking their other half/complimentary partner. I may have missed it, but what about the people who aren't looking--those who are already in a relationship but would want to display their place in the 'commmunity'? Would that fall under the 'interest in' bands?
quote:

Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.


I ask because, for myself, that would send the wrong signal. Let's say a Dominant see's me wearing a thick band on my left arm. He see's that I have 'interest in male Dom's' and strikes up a convo checking for chemistry/interest/etc. I'm happily married to my Master and not seeking anything, but there was nothing to indicate that I was already taken--unless, of course, I was wearing my collar, in which case, there's no real need for an armband. But the whole idea was to have something discrete to wear in public--something other than a collar...lol.

Well that confused even me...


At first, I was enthralled with the idea of another symbol, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I don't really need to advertise what, or who, I am. The only one who really needs to know my 'place' in the community is Master...and He doesn't need a symbol for that. I think I'm going to stick with the tried and true method--if I want to know whether someone is Dominant or submissive, I'll introduce myself and strike up a conversation. If I don't know you well enough to ask such a question, I don't need to know that sort of personal information about you until you're ready to offer it yourself.

That said, I understand that others may want to let people know that sort of thing in advance, and I'd back their right to do so. Maybe I'll want to display it myself, one day, too.


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~valeca, Owned and Operated by Loraith.

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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 3/1/2006 2:14:00 PM   
MichMasochist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: valeca


quote:

ORIGINAL: MichMasochist




Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.

Right arm = Dominate or top. (Sadist)
>Thick band = interest in male submissive or bottom.
>Thin band = interest in female submisive or bottom.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest in both genders.

Both arms
>thin bands
-->interest in female domme or top or interest in female submisive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a lesbian switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a heteroexual switch.

>thick bands
-->interest in male dom or top or interest in male submissive or bottom.
----->If worn by a female, she would be telling everyone that she is a heterosexual switch.
----->If worn by a male, he would be telling everyone that he is a homosexual switch.

>Both thick and thin bands
-->interest in both genders.
-----> This person wearing the bands being a switch and bi sexual

As example a woman wearing a thick band on her right arm and a thin band on her left arm would be signifying that:
>She is a dominate, or top, (sadist) towards or for a male bottom or submissive, (masochist). While being a bottom or submissive, (masochist) toward or for a female top or domme. and may or may not be bi-sexually orientated.

Let's face it the permutations to the equations are virtually unlimited. So let us not create a multi-dimentional array that is too complicated, or confusing. Let's leave it generalized, that a couple seeking out companionship can save time by seeing who is interested in what. Then to introduce themselves. From there on if the interested parties choose to discuse personal details, that are obviously of an intimate nature, they may follow threw with some comfort of know what the other party is open minded, towards.

Taking the idea to leather bands with stainless steel studs for S&M. Stainless steel snaps for B&D. Plain leather for D&S. Starts to and complexity like the leathermen colored hanky code. Your a a munch looking for that some one special. You see her a few feet away. Hmmm, Thick band on the right arm. My thin band on the left arm. Lets walk over and introduce myself and get to know her. Then, if we click, find out just what area of BDSM she is interested in.


These are all well thought out, but they're all geared toward people actively seeking their other half/complimentary partner. I may have missed it, but what about the people who aren't looking--those who are already in a relationship but would want to display their place in the 'commmunity'? Would that fall under the 'interest in' bands?
quote:

Left arm = submissive or bottom. (masochist)
>Thick band = interest in male dom or top.
>Thin band = interest in female domme or top.
>Both thick and thin bands = interest both genders.


I ask because, for myself, that would send the wrong signal. Let's say a Dominant see's me wearing a thick band on my left arm. He see's that I have 'interest in male Dom's' and strikes up a convo checking for chemistry/interest/etc. I'm happily married to my Master and not seeking anything, but there was nothing to indicate that I was already taken--unless, of course, I was wearing my collar, in which case, there's no real need for an armband. But the whole idea was to have something discrete to wear in public--something other than a collar...lol.

Well that confused even me...


At first, I was enthralled with the idea of another symbol, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I don't really need to advertise what, or who, I am. The only one who really needs to know my 'place' in the community is Master...and He doesn't need a symbol for that. I think I'm going to stick with the tried and true method--if I want to know whether someone is Dominant or submissive, I'll introduce myself and strike up a conversation. If I don't know you well enough to ask such a question, I don't need to know that sort of personal information about you until you're ready to offer it yourself.

That said, I understand that others may want to let people know that sort of thing in advance, and I'd back their right to do so. Maybe I'll want to display it myself, one day, too.




You make a good point. But then again others might not be so fortunate as you. For me however I would think, if you're collared you probably shoudn't be advertising. That would be my mistress' place to introduce me as her property.

In any event it would serve as an ice breaker, means of finding someone, or as a conversation piece.


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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 3/4/2006 10:39:38 AM   
Ethne


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I just read the three pages through. What happens if your tastes change, and this is tattooed on? So how about this idea?

Just a symbol. One symbol, to show "lifestyle friendliness" and we can work the details out amongst ourselves. Let's take PerverseAngelic's tattoo. If I were to see that (knowing what it meant) in the grocery store, and I struck up a conversation, only to find out that she was looking for a male submissive (chosen only because I am not) okay, so we didn’t click on that level, but hey, I met a really cool person. We cannot possibly come up with something to suit each individual kink, without complicating it. I have a friend that domme's to male, subs to other women, but for a couple, she will switch, in accordance to the woman's wished. ack!! What's she going to put on? So before I forget what my point was, how about just a symbol, to signify life-style friendliness, and leave the details for those that need them.

Oh, and its condemn. Not condem.

Ethne

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RE: wondering about symbols, ways to indentify oneself ... - 3/6/2006 2:09:19 PM   
MichMasochist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ethne

I just read the three pages through. What happens if your tastes change, and this is tattooed on? So how about this idea?

Just a symbol. One symbol, to show "lifestyle friendliness" and we can work the details out amongst ourselves. Let's take PerverseAngelic's tattoo. If I were to see that (knowing what it meant) in the grocery store, and I struck up a conversation, only to find out that she was looking for a male submissive (chosen only because I am not) okay, so we didn’t click on that level, but hey, I met a really cool person. We cannot possibly come up with something to suit each individual kink, without complicating it. I have a friend that domme's to male, subs to other women, but for a couple, she will switch, in accordance to the woman's wished. ack!! What's she going to put on? So before I forget what my point was, how about just a symbol, to signify life-style friendliness, and leave the details for those that need them.

Oh, and its condemn. Not condem.

Ethne



You love to make things complicated. ;) I like that hun. Causes me to think. OOOO my brain hurts. :-D


""lifestyle friendliness" and we can work the details out amongst ourselves". Good idea too.

Let's see, Domme to male, (can I meet her??) Right wrist thick band. Sub to female, (That a girl, no woman should ever submit to a man), Left wrist thin band. As for switching, dependant of the females wishes, is an aspect that I would think from the way it reads, May not be something she might be interested in advertising. I know cop-out. Seriously, I think the specifics like this is what would be discused after she decides that she would be interested in playing with the other party. Like you said, "leave the details for those that need them." Personally I wouldn't want some informed, yet kink unfriendly preee-vert looking at my symbols and knowing too much.

I don't like tatooes. I see a beautiful with one and I think more interms of a living mater piece having been defaced, vandalized. But to each their own. It's not my intent to criticize other who choose to have such.


Hugs and kisses
Mich







< Message edited by MichMasochist -- 3/6/2006 2:17:28 PM >

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