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knees2you -> 3 way Weddings? (1/10/2006 8:59:06 AM)

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I believe you are referring to the case of Victor de Bruijn and the cohabitation website he signed with two women. A Belgian website wrote up an article on it http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/301 claiming that it fulfilled the right wing concern that gay marriage would lead to the legalization of polygamy. Three months ago, conservative bloggers and commentaters in the U.S. seized upon this as an "I told you so" moment.


I posted this on alternative lifestyles in the news.
This was a response from someone with the address for
the story.

Polygamy has been going on since the Biblical days.
It just was never Legal.
Well we are getting one step closer.[&:]

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"If The Dom has left the Room, it doesn't mean the pain is over."


Sincerely, Ant[;)]




LadiesBladewing -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/13/2006 5:35:03 PM)

I've facilitated as a minister at a few of these -- polyamorous commitment ceremonies/handfastings, and have participated in one as one being handfasted.. fascinating and beautiful experience...

I still don't understand why a government should have -any- say in who makes an affectional and domiciliary connection to whomever else or any multiple thereof.

Lady Zephyr




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/15/2006 2:04:10 PM)

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I still don't understand why a government should have -any- say in who makes an affectional and domiciliary connection to whomever else or any multiple thereof.

Lady Zephyr


I agree with you totally. But since Governments tend to really backed by religion and/or religious beliefs ,it's not surprising that they want to be this controling. It's disheartning when you consider that the U.S. constitution provides for the seperation of church and state.




Arpig -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/15/2006 9:55:35 PM)

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I still don't understand why a government should have -any- say in who makes an affectional and domiciliary connection to whomever else or any multiple thereof.

Here is the real reason...to insure they are able to control the population....[;)]
actually the official "party line" is that they Gvt has to get involved in order to be able to protect all parties when the arangement goes sour.

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I've seen transsubstantiation
Far from my little basement room
Now its time to spread our wings
Two brides with no groom
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LadiesBladewing -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/16/2006 7:35:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Here is the real reason...to insure they are able to control the population....[;)]
actually the official "party line" is that they Gvt has to get involved in order to be able to protect all parties when the arangement goes sour.



*nods* Heaven may be the place where we accept our own responsibility for our successes -and- our struggles, and no longer need or want a government to protect us from ourselves!

And yet, I wonder if that day can come, when so many of us are willing to blame everyone but ourselves for the crises of our choices.

Lady Zephyr





MistressDREAD -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/16/2006 9:55:36 AM)

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RE: 3 way Weddings?


Yep, had one. Married My First Alpha Dominant Poly Gor Husband
29 years ago and then 10 years later both of Us fell in lust, or was it
Love with Our third Partner a Dominant Poly Gor Husband and Mate
at which time to make all things legal Divorced First Husband and
Married Second Husband with First Husband there and a part of the
ceramony with all of Us exchanging vows even tho only Me and the
Second Husbands names and papers were filed in the courts, a stupid
formality which with those who communicate well being able to get
around such stupidity, with first Husband sighing over Power of
Attorneys, Power of Attorneys of Medical, and Ownership of material
objects to Me and I doing the same with Him whilst the second Husband
signed all over to My First Husband of Himself. All of Our concensual slaves
had simalar papers given to each Dominant who took control of the others
slaves when they passed away as each of Us had both wills and living wills
which detailed all posessions and materialistic venues to contend with and
each of Us had insurance policys which was left to each other equally to care
for those in the case of Our demise by the remaining members of Our Poly
Home and Family. We enjoyed 16 years together in this relationship befor
both Men passed away within a year of each other. Nonconformist to the end
no Human will control Our right to life, right to love, right to freedom of choice,
and no Government nor Man/Woman will gain any right away from Us with out
Our deaths and one hell of a fight on My part at least. Some laws are just made
to be broken as MLK had said once.





lovingmaster5880 -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/21/2006 6:03:44 PM)



I agree with you totally. But since Governments tend to really backed by religion and/or religious beliefs ,it's not surprising that they want to be this controling. It's disheartning when you consider that the U.S. constitution provides for the seperation of church and state.
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No it doesn't, and poligamy was outlawed around the time slavery was. The reason it is not allowed is because most of the common forms of poligamy lead to forms of abuse, this can be seen in the morman survivers of poligamy and as long as this is the light in which poligamy is seen by the masses then it will continue to be.

On a side note, it does suck that that there is a limitation to people who love and care about each other are limited in ways they can express that love; but this does not limit them from a ceremony or being able to be with each other. The only real limitation is on a piece of paper, and some financial incentives, but if that is the only reason to get married then you might want to think about that.




knees2you -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/31/2006 12:16:05 AM)

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*nods* Heaven may be the place where we accept our own responsibility for our successes -and- our struggles, and no longer need or want a government to protect us from ourselves!

And yet, I wonder if that day can come, when so many of us are willing to blame everyone but ourselves for the crises of our choices.

Lady Zephyr



A Agree 100% with LadyZepher..

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"We make Our own choices, but We also suffer our own consequences!"


Sincerely, Ant[;)]




galsdelight -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (1/31/2006 6:37:17 PM)

i agree with lovingmaster, it is only a piece of paper and financial incentives, if you have a will no one, except maybe blood kin, can dispute it.
But like MistressDread did, her family found a way around it like u can, long ardous paperwork but its how they felt in the end, to each their own..........




OUMasterssub -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (2/17/2006 8:56:09 AM)

This is in reply to all the posts and especially LadiesBladewing: I have know quite a few people who actually participate and facilitate handfastings as well. I for one will be having one in a couple of years that will include my hubby and then the one I wish to have as my 3rd husband. To make a polyamorous relationship work, at least for ours that is, the emotional tie is important to us and has to be there. I have found a boyfriend, and someone I fell deeply and madly in love with and can't wait to marry him (whether legal and recognized by the state, or just recognized by us). I am now trying to help my Master hubby find himself a girlfriend to join our family. She has to understand the realm of our family and know that he isn't divorcing me to marry her. Should they want to have a handfasting for them, then their commitment to each other will be recognized by us as mine will as well. I think that being commited to more than one person is good as long as all parties involved know what is going on and are okay with things. I know in my situation there isn't any problem. The two of them (hubby and boyfriend) are good friends and enjoy hanging out together for guys night out or playing video games. That is what makes our relationship work so well because my husband knows how commited I am to my boyfriend, and he also knows I want to exchange vows with him at some point in time. My husband to be has also given me a ring which I wear all the time that my husband knows about as well. Today's society just focuses on the "traditional" ways, and at one time I did as well. But with times changing the way they are, one can't believe everything they were taught growing up to be the one and only way. Just like one can't believe what you were taught in church to be the one and true way either. There will always be those of us who question things in our upbringings and church teachings, and will find out ourselves and what really makes us happy when were get older.




knees2you -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (2/17/2006 7:35:43 PM)

So other then State, and Government all You have
is Religion.

Of course one of my friend thinks we evolved from Trees[8|]
I don't talk to Him about that at all.

It's going to happen anyways, whether it is right or not?

quote:

quote:

"We make Our own choices, but We also suffer our own consequences!"


But then We've evolved from Apes right?

ROTFLOL

Sincerely, Ant[;)]




Wulfchyld -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (2/18/2006 7:24:56 PM)

Has anyone noticed that polygamy became illegal shortly after the inception of the IRS? Exactly what is the EIC for 23 dependants?

Loki




knees2you -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (2/22/2006 3:02:28 PM)

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Has anyone noticed that polygamy became illegal shortly after the inception of the IRS? Exactly what is the EIC for 23 dependants?

Loki



Very Good Question? Any Answers??


quote:

'You have been chosen to speak, but do You speak what You have chosen?"


Sincerely, Ant[;)]




Nikolette -> RE: 3 way Weddings? (3/6/2006 2:19:24 AM)

I've been curious about the concept of this too. Not so much the wedding, but everything after that. Certainly there are ways to get around the legal ramifications of being poly... but how does one successfully manage the other details when one must interact with an outwardly vanilla culture. One example of this is having children, and another is introducing both partners to potiential new friends. Maybe I'll start a new thread about that.




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