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Slipstreme -> RE: Alcohol and BDSM (1/18/2006 8:38:30 PM)

nay for me. I have an addictive gene/ personality thing that runs in both sides of the family, so I won't even give a casual drink a chance or drugs, or smokes for that matter.

In fact I believe that my addictive gene had decided to choose another drug: endorphins from masochism and the psychological high of Domming, and frankly, these feel too good to give up for the occasional dose of alcohol.

So no, Ill pass on the drink and run up the tab with something a little less tipsy, like a soda.




EvilGeoff -> RE: Alcohol and BDSM (1/18/2006 8:54:08 PM)

I'm certainly not a tee-totaler so abstinence from alcohol is not my advice.

Consuming alcohol impares judgement and it effects coordination from the first drink on. How much it effects one is a matter of individual factors like weight, sensitivity, experience. Personally, I will play in a sensual way after a beer or two, or a glass of wine. I will not engage in edge play after consuming alcohol at all. Accidents can happen even when I am stone cold sober, I do not want to increase that risk by adding alchol to the mix.

What you do in your own home is your business and if you wish to partake and play that's fine. We are each adults and able to assess the risks associated with our practices. Dungeon rules on the other hand should be clear and absolute, strictly from a liability issue standpoint. No play allowed if you have used alcohol or drugs, no use of alcohol or drugs on the premises during play parties.

Almost all of us have made decisions, spoken words, or taken actions under the influence of alcohol that "seemed like a good idea at the time" that we terribly regretted after sobering up. I never want any scene I do to be remembered with regret because I was playing under the influence or the bottom I was playing with was under the influence.

*tosses another $.02 in the jar*

YIK,
- Geoff




yourMissTress -> RE: Alcohol and BDSM (1/19/2006 10:06:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wolf1020

There is drunk, sober, and countless levels inbetween.

There is a distict difference between a night out and a few drinks and being wasted (at least for me....different people have different views of a few drinks). Basicly you may not be truly sober but you aren't drunk either and still clear headed.

PLaying after drinking doesn't bother me depending on jsut how much someone has had to drink. A glass of wine or two at dinner is one thing, a six pack is another so really it goes to just how effected the person is. If they were drunk then no way no how, but the same would go if the person was dead tired and not thinking completly clearly. So long as your jugment isn't effected fine, if it is effected not fine.


A few years ago I was witness to a woman being checked in to a detox ward. The woman walked in alone, didn't swagger, stood at the counter without leaning, took items from her purse with no apparent difficulty, and talked to us with no slurring of words. Her makeup was perfectly applied, hair well done, and she was very well dressed. Were it not for the venue and the odor of alcohol emmanating from her pores, neither I nor anyone else working in this unit would have known that she was drunk. When asked about the friend or family member that brought her to the unit, she replied that she had driven herself. I asked her to point out her car from the window, and upon further inspection, it didn't appear as if the woman had struck anything with the car. As a matter of routine all BAC's are tested and recorded upon admission, hers was 0.56.

This is a long story about someone who was very drunk, and not at all obviously so. Does the fact that she could walk, talk and drive mean that her judgement was not impaired? Does that mean that because she wasn't slobbering and drooling and falling down mean that she could be trusted to wield a whip or cane or even a feather?

It's anyone's choice how they play. If someone thinks they can achieve subspace easier by shooting smack before a scene, the only person able to make that decision is the Dom and the sub together. If a Dom feels the need to consume mind or mood altering drugs to "get into" a scene, again, it's between the people involved in the scene to decide whether or not they will participate.

Alcohol is a depressant, it dulls the senses. Drugs will alter the availability and production of endorphins and dopamine, the very chemicals that are necessary to reach subspace.

My choice, and my rules for subs are clear. I do not drink or participate in any illegal drug use. When a sub is with me they will be 100% free of such things as well. There is too much at stake.

And that's my $.02, btw, what are we going to do with all this cash?





MizSuz -> RE: Alcohol and BDSM (2/16/2006 4:29:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: topcat

You've never seen the Amazing MizSuz with a bottle in one hand and a bullhip in the other<g>.



psssst....it was probably a signal whip. ;)

Will and Dori are coming to visit last week of Feb, wanna come?!? I bet you could even ride up with them if you wanted. I'd love to see you (and the dungeon is almost ready to christen, albeit a bit 'rough').




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