Sinergy
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The US is not disallowing all nations the right to assist in rebuilding the nation. From what I can tell it works like this. The US has asked for aid from several nations and they have refused. Now maybe they are asking for assistance from nations they know will refuse just to keep it the way it is, I dont know. However the nations that have been barred have been on this rational.
The US also asked other nations to support them in their invasion.
Only 2 did, the rest were opposed to invasion and preferred to rely on diplomatic measures.
Diplomatic methods were not overly effective. But the invasion really didnt turn out all that great for anybody either.
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Why is it that everyone thinks wars are about oil? I have never seen any evidence of that. Nor heard that from anyone. Oil is not the motivation that everyone would like to believe. If oil were that big of a concern dont you think there would be a harder push to rely on alternate energy sources?
Reread my sentence please, I did not say it was "about oil" specifically, I said it was to prevent the Red Communist Menace (read: Chinese) from being able to block the straits nearby and preventing oil from travelling eastward to Japan and the US circa 1950 and later.
As you no doubt have read, McCarthy insisted this would happen shortly after the Soviet Union and China put aside 6000 years of warfare and animosity, embraced True Communism, combined to wipe out the scourge of centralized control of capital, and spread their Communist ideology planetwide.
It is important for this discussion because most of his justifications to support his beliefs were not based on any sort of empirical evidence, and his emotional arguments and jingoistic paranoia ruined the lives of a lot of people.
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Then what is your objective?
Please reread my posts. I have already stated my objectives any number of times and they are not "to get people to stop hating the US" as you claimed they are.
On a more pertinent note, the use of emotional arguments, epithets, insults, and condescending vague statements is rather cute when kindergartners are fighting over whose turn it is to play on the swing set, but really not overly appropriate for public discourse. In my humble opinion.
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weapons were furnished by Iraq,
Actually, it is entirely possible that the box cutters used in the 9/11 hijackings were furnished by Home Depot.
We should invade them too.
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The true Muslim, the one where one of the worst things you can do is to take anothers life.
Who exactly are the "true muslims?"
Would that be the followers of Shi'a, who follow a sect which splintered off from the main branch of Mohammedism in antiquity? The ones who refuse to have anything to do with Sunni, such as those who are the majority in Iran, Afghanistan, etc, and consider the splitting off from Mohammed, etc., by their first Mullah because Mohammed was not devout enough, as the dawn of their religion.
Or are the true Muslims the followers of the Sunni branch who are a direct descendant religion from the prophet Mohammed, who have their majority (population-wise) in Indonesia, were the ruling branch in Iraq under Saddam, and used poison gas against rebel followers of the Shi'a sect in his own country?
Please clarify.
Thank you,
Sinergy
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]) Perhaps such is the nature and destiny of a "Rant" thread. If that is the case, i would be most grateful if we could reconvene in separate "rational discussion" threads on each specific issue, as i, at least, most certainly have much to learn and ask about. But perhaps we all need to rest and cool down a little first? <timid smile> 
). Other than that, many other steppe, Central Asian, Siberian, SE Asian tribes/nations/entities have at some point or another taken over parts of what is known as "China" today. 
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