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inyouagain -> RE: Wondering... (2/24/2004 3:27:28 AM)
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If you are a bit of a hacker, nothing is impossible!!!
I am a well versed hacker, and e-mail tracing is most difficult, especially for a novice. Obtaining an audit trail for a message can lead the hacker/auditor through a miriad of different mailservers, worldwide. Audit records of each received/relayed message are offloaded after a certain time (server logs)... simply due to the magnitude of message traffic daily. The first problem is ascertaining where and when a message went, which can only be done by asking every mailserver if it handled message ID number xxxxx. If a server log identifies the message, the mouse chase (or goat rope) begins, often dead-ending at a subsequent relay server whose logs have been purged. That server's owner/operator must be queried by a written request, which is often denied for reasons of privacy, etc. Its no walk in the park, by any means!
If you were able to trace a single message through the worldwide web, all the way to it's destination... all you know is it got there. No way to know if it was ever read??
Most user e-mail program's (Outlook, Netscape mail, etc) don't store messages on the user's mailserver. As soon as the message is delivered (downloaded to their PC), it is deleted from the mailserver. Only a deliver trace is left, no idea if read or not.
AOL may be different, and store messages online only. I don't use or hack AOL, and do not know if they have any read mail reverse notification system, but if they did it would be a waste of resources and short lived at best.
A sender can request a return receipt for sent mails, which is triggered (and can be interrrupted) by the recipient's opening of said message. That only acknowledges opening, or receipt... NOT whether read or not.
Collarme's message system formerly inicated 'date read' by recipient, but about a week ago they removed the function. I thought it was useful, but can easily live without it. It was the only system of that type I've seen recently, anywhere... and was internal to collarme, as will any other similar method you may see elsewhere. There is no internet e-mail acknowledgement method other than return receipt I mentioned above.
The situation is essentially like snail mail, you can send a letter and get a return receipt for it's ultimate delivery... but you have no idea if it was ever opened and read.
Now if you were inferring you will hack into the recipients PC and check, hahaha! The best hack out there could only ascertain if the message was there and marked as read or unread.... not IF it has actually been read... OR by whom?
Woah!
This thread topic dealt with 'letting go' so to speak, and as I stated above in my earlier reply all factors must be examined... on both sides. I mentioned possible evidence of utilization of two way communications, which were quite pointed in fact.
When will the person who was last stabbed die?
Kinda like Monty Python's rugged and adamant bridge guard... some may not stop until their last vengeful and doggedly determined breath of life... and then curse you from their grave.
If it don't work... go your own ways and find the happiness you seek. Leave the bitterness and resentments behind you and don't pursue personal vendettas.
Fatal attraction is often NOT one sided... nuff said.
Onwards and Upwards...... does NOT include backwards!
Inyouagain
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