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RE: Question - 9/1/2005 12:27:38 PM

LadiesBladewing

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Actually, it is quite a fantasy to expect to have a submissive who doesn't express his or her needs and doesn't expect to have those needs met in a relationship. But that is -all- that it is...a fantasy.

There is nothing wrong with a submissive who asks questions, as long as it is done respectfully (whatever that means within the context of the relationship of the individuals involved). And a Master who cannot or will not answer reasonable questions -clearly- does not have his or her own act together enough to have responsibility for another human beng.

If a submissive who asks questions bothers an Owner, it is usually because that owner is insecure and hasn't thought things through well enough to have an answer.

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ORIGINAL: RavenofPK

Interesting. All this focus on what the "sub/slave" wants, as if what the man wants is irrelevant. Who is running the show anyway......him.......or the so-called "subs/slaves"?

As has been bantered about before in certain other threads........"who is anyone (especially another mere "sub/slave who has nothing to do with nothing) to question the will of a man?"

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RE: Question - 9/1/2005 4:59:47 PM

lovingmaster45

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Whenever I see that a sub is looking for another to join her and Master, I am suspicious. My first impression is that he is too damn lazy or too damn incompetent to find the other sub himself.

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RE: Question - 9/1/2005 6:11:50 PM

JohnWarren

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Whenever I see that a sub is looking for another to join her and Master, I am suspicious. My first impression is that he is too damn lazy or too damn incompetent to find the other sub himself.

In a few cases that I've heard about, the "sub" was actually a sockpuppet for the guy. This is why women wanting to get into this kind of situation should always insist on talking in person with the woman.

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RE: Question - 9/1/2005 6:11:54 PM

softysub

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Hi Sir:

The feelings i had were separated in two...First, i felt like i wasnt doing my best to please Him and secondly, i felt like it would have been a distraction for me so i wouldnt bother Him....

Thank Y/you

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RE: Question - 9/1/2005 7:07:54 PM

handfullscherry

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she is new to collarme.com, though she is not new to the poly lifestyle. she has been in a poly relationship for three years now. she has to say, that while the reasoning for your Master finding another may not be clear, perhaps you should look at the possibility of it being so that you have something to share with someone. Perhaps He realizes that He doesn't have enough time to spend with you and wants to find someone for you to have time with. This may not be the case, and therefore, she would ask, was a poly realtionship something that was discussed in the beginning of your relationship?

Questioning your Master in a respectful way is fine, questioning why He wants another in a respectfull way should still be fine. Be honest, be direct, but be respectful.

miss_cherry, proud alpha slave to Master Handfull

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RE: Question - 9/3/2005 12:46:30 AM

RavenofPK

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Apperently Raven, as usualy you have not a clue of what you are talking aboute. There is a differance between a sub and a slave, is a sub not submissive, sure she is, but she has not given up the right to have a say. You see, contry to what you seam to belive, we do not live on Gor, and here things are in a bit more of shades og gray than black and white. You dont have the willing sex slaves and the frigid man haters only.

i am a submissive woman, i obey the man i live whit. But i have limits to my submission, do that make my submission less true, no, it simply mean that i am a submissive and not a slave. i for example can not take all the housework becouse i am dedicated to my studies, and that was a condition that i would be aloved to keep them when i gave my submission, do that mean that i am in charge? no, it simply mean there is limits to my submission.

What? We *don't* live on Gor? Wow. Thank you ever so much for clearing that up. I never would have guessed. *insert sarcastic tone here* Give me a break. Try another defense, girl. That line is tired and blantantly illogical. But you see........this is where your lack of understanding of the Gorean lifestyle places your foot firmly in your own mouth. Living Gorean in today's society, AND here on Earth can, and is being done, to it's fullest, by a great many people.......and a lot of these people don't even own females. And therein lies a great difference. In bdsm........the submissive, or more accurately, the "sub" is required for the dynamic to *be*. For Goreans........the submissive isn't needed to *be*. You are not the priority..........simply a pleasant perk, IF chosen to be indulged.

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RE: Question - 9/3/2005 2:31:44 AM

zaynab

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yea... I can explain that.... that's a guy who has a really strong wet dream.....

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