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teapaw -> slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 6:48:54 PM)
Just curious...is a slave a slave with out a Master? I am choose slave as an option beacuse i am not switch, sub or Dom so TO ME that implies that I have a Master...or does that imply that i am looking for a Master? IN the Colloar me thing where you sign up and choose what you are...... I choose slave becuase i have a Master and it just got me to thinking about the word slave and the term Master slave and if it all relates to one another like yin and yang (well it does for me) thenI wondered why I keep getting the Dom emails about wantingto own me...LMAO...I am thinking that if I am slave then I have a master if not doesnt htat make me a sub looking to be a slave or a slave looking for a master? I was just wonderfin OP ideas on this..... pamela

MstrHellsFury -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 6:59:25 PM)
IMHO...I believe you are what you wish to be...is it not but just a title you carry....I always listen to the wisdom of my slaves and they say it's their soul..essense of them that's what they are..the title is of my creation...

UrsusDomesticus -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 7:55:22 PM)
Ursus [email protected] I personally feel that slavery is home to two primary characteristics: obedience and service. Service is easy. To quote a dear, dear slave friend of mine (who has been collared for years) "One serves where one can." Service can be defines in giving to your master or to your community. Your gift is your service. Your choice to award that gift is what makes you special. Obedience is the tough nut. Without a master, who are you to obey? Why, obey yourself, of course. Set your goals, and discipline yourself to stick to them. In the end your obedience is always to yourself, a mere demonstration of your commitment to your master. Practice discipline. Hold the punishment. Breathe in life. Bear

teapaw -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 7:57:56 PM)
I just realized how confusing that 1st entry was so i edited it to make my statement more clear...I know what i am...I was just wondering op opinion about the who Master slave concept... pamela quote: ORIGINAL: MstrHellsFury IMHO...I believe you are what you wish to be...is it not but just a title you carry....I always listen to the wisdom of my slaves and they say it's their soul..essense of them that's what they are..the title is of my creation...

Lordandmaster -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 8:00:20 PM)
That's how I see it. You can't be a slave without a master. You can be a potential slave, or someone who might one day make a very good slave, but I don't think there is such a thing as an unowned slave. And I don't subscribe to the idea that you can be whatever you want. I want to be Superman, but that doesn't mean I am. On the other hand, I think you can be SUBMISSIVE without a dom or master, because that's something that describes your nature, not your state. The same goes for "master," by the way: a master is someone who owns a slave. No more and no less. Of course, people use all these words however they wish, so you can expect that all kinds of people will disagree. Lam quote: ORIGINAL: teapaw I choose slave becuase i have a Master and it just got me to thinking about the word slave and the term Master slave and if it all relates to one another like yin and yang (well it does for me)

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 8:59:43 PM)
I consider being a slave to be an orientation, independent of whatever circumstances might be going on at the time. But I know not a lot of people agree with me in that.

teapaw -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/22/2005 9:36:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster That's how I see it. You can't be a slave without a master. You can be a potential slave, or someone who might one day make a very good slave, but I don't think there is such a thing as an unowned slave. On the other hand, I think you can be SUBMISSIVE without a dom or master, because that's something that describes your nature, not your state. The same goes for "master," by the way: a master is someone who owns a slave. No more and no less. Lam So when my profile says SLAVE wouldnt one think that I am already taken? Or that a Master already has a slave. If not shouldnt one NOT use those terms? Just putting this out there....and curious..... thanks pamela

Lordandmaster -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/23/2005 1:55:30 AM)
It's a problem; I agree. But I think someone in that situation would be all right if she categorized herself as "slave" and explained in her profile that she is unowned. What I said above was only how I conceive of the term "slave"; I wouldn't expect that everyone else has the same view, and therefore wouldn't assume that someone who chooses the category "slave" for her profile is necessarily owned by a master. quote: ORIGINAL: teapaw So when my profile says SLAVE wouldnt one think that I am already taken? Or that a Master already has a slave. If not shouldnt one NOT use those terms? Just putting this out there....and curious..... thanks pamela

kisshou -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/23/2005 5:23:06 AM)
You can be (have the feelings, orientation) of a slave without a Master.

mistoferin -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/23/2005 6:58:59 AM)
quote: is a slave a slave with out a Master In my not so humble opinion, quite simply, no. As LAM stated, slave is a title that describes your current state of ownership. While I have spent many years of my life as a slave, currently I am not owned and therefore I do not use the title. Does that mean that my mindset is different? No. I am who I am. Submissive in nature. That aspect is a constant regardless of ownership status.

wolfsprincess -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/23/2005 9:10:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster But I think someone in that situation would be all right if she categorized herself as "slave" and explained in her profile that she is unowned. What I said above was only how I conceive of the term "slave"; I wouldn't expect that everyone else has the same view, and therefore wouldn't assume that someone who chooses the category "slave" for her profile is necessarily owned by a master. Too bad the category "submissive with a slave heart" doesn't exist.

shydesiresMaster -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/24/2005 2:18:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wolfsprincess Too bad the category "submissive with a slave heart" doesn't exist. I found a submissive woman and within her was the characteristics I find most pleasing: obedience and service. she is a woman first with her own unique genuine personality, innately submissive, and My slave. Now W/we search for another who will find her deepet reward in obedience and service.

teapaw -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/24/2005 2:30:02 PM)
Yeah thats the worst part...we need more catapries....should we pickett? LOL I am a slave looking for friends...that it..if I put slave I get TONS of Dom?Master types looking for a slave are are quite rude sometimes which I respond in kind (rudely)...and I get some that are SOooooo sweet and nice...they would make wonderful Masters to a slave....Its a shame they waste their time with me...I try to respond nicely with encouragement for them to keep trying...after all I met my Master online...there shold be an option that says looking.... my 2 cents pamela

MsPurrmeow -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/24/2005 6:31:30 PM)
There is an option... it's called a profile. [;)] Use the space there to explain who and what you are and who and what you are looking for, OR NOT. This is a big empty space that allows you to explain your situation clearly. Most of the profiles that I see for people who are not looking simply have a sentence in the beginning that says they what they are here for and that they are not looking for partners. It seems simple and clear enough for those that read. For those that don't, there is an option called "Block Sender" on the left-hand side. ... and yeah, I believe that a slave is a slave. Most know who and what they are and they are free to advertise as such without assumption. Unfortunately, few people that have the label on their profiles actually know the difference or have any experience at all as either one. Good Luck.

teapaw -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/25/2005 1:42:12 AM)
OH in my profile i dont say anything at all about lookin for anyone. Its just assumed, which I find funny. I have used that block sender hand several times,I am so glad they have it :) W/we were talking about the differences betweena slave and a sub lookin for a Master so that can be a slave at home and I wanted to know OP opinions here since its a forum. I am excited about the different views people have on this topic. Its great to takl to such a deverse group. ;) thanks pamela quote: ORIGINAL: MsPurrmeow There is an option... it's called a profile. Most of the profiles that I see for people who are not looking simply have a sentence in the beginning that says they what they are here for and that they are not looking for partners. It seems simple and clear enough for those that read. For those that don't, there is an option called "Block Sender" on the left-hand side. ... and yeah, I believe that a slave is a slave. Most know who and what they are and they are free to advertise as such without assumption. Unfortunately, few people that have the label on their profiles actually know the difference or have any experience at all as either one. Good Luck.

JerryInTampa -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (7/26/2005 6:34:03 AM)
My first-blush response would be that slave denotes an interest and mindset. A slave without a master is still a slave-personality (just as I'm still heterosexual when I'm not having sex with anyone). Since I believe this to be the common perspective as well, anythign else is arguing semantics.

twistedcouple -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (8/14/2005 11:52:11 AM)
ACtually, I am the one that probably prompted her to write this little schpiel. I wrote to her inquiring as to her status and was quite promptly told that she had a Master and that I shoudl have known this because she had SLAVE in her name. When told that lots of people have Slave in their name and are not owned the reply was "They are wrong, and I have corrected several" (Direct quote). Explaining that people are what they are and what words/titles mean to one person, does not necessarily mean the same thing to others. And both can easily be correct. She also informed me of this little progression that I was unaware of: Sumissives are slaves that have not found masters yet, and when they get a master, they become slaves. People will title themselves they way they wish to. Some identify with being slave, even without a master. There is something to be said about wearing the title Slave with pride. There is another to wear it with arrogance. Peace

bigandbeautiful -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (8/14/2005 12:08:25 PM)
I love it when people, who are living the "lifestyle," tell everyone else what is and what is not the "correct" term or way to do something. Since this is (and some are not going to agree) a fantasy based way of living, labels don't always work the same for some as they do for others. The whole idea is keeping an open mind and COMMUNICATION, which many don't seem to grasp as a concept. Apparently, some have never heard the cliche' "don't assume..." and when they get responses to their profiles, which are either 1. not filled out or 2. ambiguous as to what they are looking for, if anything at all, they are quick to complain and or correct the sender. Some people just enjoy the attention, I guess. Love

stormsfate -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (8/14/2005 12:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: teapaw So when my profile says SLAVE wouldnt one think that I am already taken? Or that a Master already has a slave. If not shouldnt one NOT use those terms? Just putting this out there....and curious..... thanks pamela There are as many ways to do things as there are people who can think them up, and surely one shouldn't be so presumptuous as to believe that others would be able to somehow divine something as ambiguous as choosing slave rather than submissive to indicate whether or not they are owned. [&:] That being said, not all slaves consider themselves submissives, so that little thingie about being a submissive until one is owned doesn't really work for me. best regards, fate

MstrHellsFury -> RE: slave a slave with out a Master (8/14/2005 1:13:53 PM)
I do believe you said it better than I did...(big smile) Fury

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