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coffeetable -> How do i submit to ownership? (2/11/2004 5:15:35 PM)

i am totally new to all of this. i am real cute, a burly big guy that wants to be totally owned and used. how do you get started in this?

if only i were kept locked up in a cage or tool shed all day or night, forced to give up my paycheck and used as a human carpet or coffee table....




MistressDREAD -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/11/2004 5:27:10 PM)

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http://groups.msn.com/Gor-/chat.msnw




belongtoyou -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/12/2004 10:34:22 PM)

Coffeetable,

the link to steel-door.com was also extremely helpful to me- thanks to Mistress Dread for including the link in her replies.

Rain




MistressDREAD -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/13/2004 7:33:52 AM)

Your most welcome belongtoyou!




sub4hire -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/15/2004 8:46:17 PM)

I just love that name coffeetable..hehe.

Anyway I have a question for you. How do you know this is truly what you want? Have you experienced anything even remotely like this yet?

I only ask this because I come across many male subs all the time who tell me the same thing. Most really don't want it in the end. Just curious if you've delved into it or not yet?

Gloria




iwillserveu -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/20/2004 4:40:08 PM)

coffetable,

Run while you have the chance!!![:D]

Seriously, Dominant women out number sub men by something like ten to one. You start out with the odds against you.

If you are new I'd recommend getting a pro. I'm serious. The only way to know you like it is to try a smorgasbord. I don't doubt you think you'd like to be kept in a shed and used as a coffetable, but reality is often different than fantasy. Tell the woman you are not sure if this is for you but you can't stop thinking about it, etc. and no hard feelings if this just isn't for me.

No, she will not have sex with you. Don't ask. Besides that isn't what you want anyway. She'll whip you, put you in a ball parachute, etc. and if you tell her of your coffee table fantasy she use you as a coffee table as she reads a magazine or something.

Then you can decide.




MizSuz -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/21/2004 7:00:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu


Seriously, Dominant women out number sub men by something like ten to one. You start out with the odds against you.




Did you mean that dominant women are outnumbered by submissive men??? Meaning there are perhaps 10 subs to each dominant woman? Because if you meant there are 10 dominant women to each sub I would have to disagree, strongly.

The suggestion to see a pro is a pretty good one, actually. If he manages to see a good pro.

He can also go to munches, demos, workshops and the like. Not looking for a domme so much as looking to network with other like minded people. Once you're "known" you will find that you will begin to get invitations to parties and the like. That's also a good base to start when dealing with the lifestyle segment.

Most of all, go slow. Don't be in a hurry to make promises that FEEL like you will love, but without the experience to KNOW you will love it may be difficult to live up to.




iwillserveu -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/26/2004 4:45:41 AM)

Yes, MizSuz, I got it backwards. (or "backwards it got I."[:)])

Thanks for noticing. And thanks for the correction.

The problem with munches and what not is they probably won't work for him yet. If he is unsure of what he wants then I'd reccomend he find out before networking and finding a kind dominant (Domina? Fem Dom? Domme?[:)]) who might halfway through a scene have him say, "Sorry, i only thought i wanted this. Where are the keys?"

Sorry i can't spell check right now. Sorry for the typoes.[:)]




MizSuz -> RE: How do i submit to ownership? (2/26/2004 6:19:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu

Yes, MizSuz, I got it backwards. (or "backwards it got I."[:)])

Thanks for noticing. And thanks for the correction.



My pleasure. I thought that might be what you meant.

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The problem with munches and what not is they probably won't work for him yet. If he is unsure of what he wants then I'd reccomend he find out before networking and finding a kind dominant (Domina? Fem Dom? Domme?[:)]) who might halfway through a scene have him say, "Sorry, i only thought i wanted this. Where are the keys?"


I agree with the spirit of what I think you are saying. One sure fire way to get in too deep is to get a little bit of terminology, a lot of fantasy, and mix it with too much too fast. I've met many who were so new that there was no real way for them to know WHAT they wanted and needed because they had not yet had the opportunity to do the soul searching that is required of a CLEAR statement of limits and preferences. How do you know you do or don't like/want it if you've never tried it, right?

I don't agree that he's too new to get anything of value from a munch. In fact, in my experience munches are an ideal way to get limited exposure without risk, or at least with minimized and controlled risk, even for the novice. They are in a public place, generally they are vanilla in appearance and don't have the protocol constraints that you might find at a club or private party. The best way to handle this is to go in with a very clear statement "I'm new, I'm curious and I haven't a fucking clue." Then allow yourself to gravitate to people who don't feel the need to jump on you like you're the freshest meat on the block. They'll be easy to spot. They won't touch you, they won't try to play with you, they won't act lasciviously with you, they won't try to dominate you. They will treat you like the human being that you are. My advice would be to stear clear of anyone who can't or won't do that.

The other option is to find a reputable pro, explain that you are a first timer and ask for the 'newbie toybox tour.' If you've found a GOOD pro she will speak to you at great length about your thoughts, feelings, fantasies and things you have a total aversion to. She will ask you about your health, about your belief systems, especially sexually, and she will take you slowly and usually more sensually than sadistically. She'll ask you if you are ok a lot (possibly more than you want to hear) and she'll encourage you to talk to her about your experience when she's done (not just immediately after but also in a few days when you've had time to absorb it). That will make the next session better still.

I don't recommend playing with ANYONE, pro or otherwise, who wouldn't do this for a novice. But munches aren't about play, they are about meeting people.

As always, play is NEVER a requirement. If it is, find another group.




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