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candyissweet -> Non-poly woman w/poly man (6/29/2005 4:54:53 PM)

I am a non-poly female, I am involded with a male who is poly. I care deeply for him. We have been together for over 2 years going on 3 years. I at times find myself very upset that he takes time with the other girls.

Now, I wear something of his 24/7/365 the other girls have no clue. I also have rules i live by. As far as i know the other girls do not know of this nor do they wear anything that belongs to him. I am required to show myself every week to him in person.

How do i control these feeling of pain that happens when i know he is with another? We had a date Tuesday He canceled for family reasons. He then offered me Weds and then assummed as i had not answered in a timely manner that I did not want it so gave it to one of the others. I am extremely hurt he would do such.

I have been telling him how hurt i am by this in the reports to him. I feel like i have failed here some place. This is not the first mix up we have had lately. We have had ALLOT of them.

Thank you for listening. I guess I just needed to vent. As I am ready to walk away, as i feel like he is not listening to me, He hears me but is not listening to the words. Maybe I am not speaking clearly... or in a manner he can not understand me.

Bye,
Candy




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (6/29/2005 5:22:14 PM)

Have you all read the Ethical Slut? The fact that there are things that are actively hidden (the wearing thing) suggests that theres lots of little blockages that are contributing to overall pressures. Starting down a path of "things we can't share" always leads to worse things in the end.

As far as the date thing, just chalk it up to life happens. Everyone gets dates broken for some reasons, as long as its not a regular thing, just let it go. Poly is hard to keep scheduled, specially if he seems to be having individual dates and not group dates (group dates, btw are a great way to form a group solidarity and allow everyone tol have time together).

There are great other threads around here to help with jealousy, but for now get the lines of communication clear and open, be honest with your feelings and expectations, and go read the Ethical Slut.




wolfspirits -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (6/29/2005 8:37:31 PM)

Yes! Buy The Ethical Slut . It Is Required Reading In The Poly Groups We Know Of And We Always Have The people That We Want To form This Type Of Relationship With. And For Those That Have Read It should From Time To Time Reread It. Its Surprising How You Might Look At Something Differently Or Change.




golden1 -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (6/30/2005 4:28:35 PM)

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fillepink -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (6/30/2005 8:04:14 PM)

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Have you all read the Ethical Slut? The fact that there are things that are actively hidden (the wearing thing) suggests that theres lots of little blockages that are contributing to overall pressures. Starting down a path of "things we can't share" always leads to worse things in the end.

As far as the date thing, just chalk it up to life happens. Everyone gets dates broken for some reasons, as long as its not a regular thing, just let it go. Poly is hard to keep scheduled, specially if he seems to be having individual dates and not group dates (group dates, btw are a great way to form a group solidarity and allow everyone tol have time together).

There are great other threads around here to help with jealousy, but for now get the lines of communication clear and open, be honest with your feelings and expectations, and go read the Ethical Slut.


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there will never be a resolution of the differences between you and this Man which is emotionally satisfactory to you. None of my poly Dom friends would have allowed this situation to occur; They spend a great deal of time and effort to assure Themselves and the woman that a poly family is right for her. This is the time to listen to your inner voice; make the break and begin healing. You do not merely feel you have been disrespected by Him; that is what happened. You are in a position similiar to a woman having an affair with a married man, coming to grips with the realization that he will never leave his wife.

One final piece of advice: when you break it off, do not allow any drama. This will be hard enough for you. Simply show Him the door and say "do not come back". Change the locks, if He has a key. Throw His things in the trash; or drop then at a friend's without a word. Erase His messages on your answering machine. Be absolutely unreachable; eventually He will leave you alone; if He does not, that's what God made restraining orders for. Don't give Him one more day of Your life. If He needs help understanding "what went wrong", let Him see a therapist. He always knew He was exploiting you; and you deserve all the happiness your heart can hold.

fillepink

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plantlady64 -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/1/2005 3:56:06 AM)

Hello There,
I see a lot of people don't feel a sub should have the privledge of also having others, and only the Dom should be afforded that privledge.
I personally am permitted to take up to 4 other full contact Doms into my life if I choose. All of them know I'm collared to my Master and he holds veto power, and My Master has to approve of them in open play before I'm allowed to see them privately.
To the person who said it's not common, you are very mistaken.
Black Rose did a series of leather families. They also agree it's good for the family to permit sub/slaves to have other persuits as it takes the pressure of attention off the Master over them. They also had discussed they must approve of the bottoms selection and grant the permission before the sub/slave can proceed. This advice came to us by a Man who has 4 slaves in his home and one elsewhere that's been in the life over twenty years.
I think it's more common than you think, and it can work as it does for my Master and I.
Sincerely,
sub suzane




MistressFire70 -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/1/2005 12:20:02 PM)

I, personally, don't think it will work when a mono person is with a poly person. Even in cuckold relationships, the cuck has to be poly in mindset, if not in body. Forcing the issue is just going to bring heartache and jealousy on your part and frustration and lack of understanding on his. If he's asking you to hide something special from the other girls, what's to bet they're hiding something from you? He sounds clever enough to not give each of you the same kind of token.

In the poly relationships I know work, everyone knows about everyone else. If there is something special between two of the people, it is public and all join in the celebration of that relationship. It really is a "family". If one person wants to add a new relationship, everyone else must approve, especially the nearby relationships.

I'm not purposefully working to feed your anxieties, only trying to point out that they might be valid and that’s something to think about. You may just have to accept that you are not poly and stop trying to force it in order to please. It’s making you crazy and thus, less able to serve in a manner that makes you happy and fulfills your needs.


Fire




wolfspirits -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/1/2005 4:47:03 PM)

Hi There , This Is Lady Silver, I Agree With MistressFire70, That He Has Probably Given The Other Girls Tokens. Its True In Working Poly Relationships Everyone Knows Each Other, Have Met, Know Information About The Other Phone # ETC. And Everyone Has A Say About The New Person Coming In, Especialy With The Primary (that being you) Have A Say. Poly Is Not Part Of BDSM. Your Heart Must Be Very Heavy Right Now, Please Take Some Time To Explore Your Feelings And Ask Questions, Meet The Others. Then Decide What To Do. If You Find Within Yourself That Your Not Poly Then It Might Be Best To Find Your Happiness Else Where, You Can Not Force Youself To Be Poly, It Will Slit You And Everyone Apart, Ive Seen It Happen.
Lady Silver, Of Wolfspirits.[;)]




MsJess24IL -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/4/2005 4:53:39 PM)

This is some real easy advice. He will continue to do it.If you still wish to be submissive to him then you are ok. If its to much for you to see or know then you must leave.




ScooterTrash -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/4/2005 6:33:47 PM)

I'm a little concerned as I am not so sure you are involved with a man that is poly, but more someone who plays the field. I guess that comes from regarding poly as a family type dynamic where everyone lives together and there is no outside interaction. In any case however, it is unlikely that someone who is actually mono, would ever be satisfied with any version of poly. It's not something you can conform to just because that's the situation you are in, unless perhaps you already have some curiousity and an exploratory spirit that makes you want to try it. It sounds like you tried it and don't like it, so getting away from it may be the best solution.




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/4/2005 7:01:42 PM)

quote:

This Is Lady Silver,


I'm sorry, but I have to ask this.... Why do you capitalize every word?

Jewel




geargirl -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/6/2005 2:16:09 PM)

i am so glad i found this post. my master is polly. and it KILLS me. but i am in love with him I am trying as hard as i can.




JerryInTampa -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/12/2005 8:54:52 AM)

quote:

I am a non-poly female, I am involded with a male who is poly.
This seems to be a mistake. There are several people in my life who I've loved and lusted but who simply were not good choices for me as a partner. I call them "ex-girlfriends".

quote:

I care deeply for him. We have been together for over 2 years going on 3 years.
[...]
I am required to show myself every week to him in person.
For almost three years and you are seeing him "once a week"? I suspect that you are viewing this relationship far more seriously than he is. (perhaps "seriously" is the wrong word, but I cannot think of another). It seems that he is "dating" and you are not.

Of course, I recommend that you discuss the issue with him, but believe that you already have. To be honest, though, it sounds like you and he have different relationship goals and desires. This does not make him bad or a failure, it does not make you bad or a failure, but it does make you two incompatable.

Only you can really answer your own question, but considering your opening sentance, I think you already have.




punnishme -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/25/2005 1:06:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

I'm a little concerned as I am not so sure you are involved with a man that is poly, but more someone who plays the field. I guess that comes from regarding poly as a family type dynamic where everyone lives together and there is no outside interaction. In any case however, it is unlikely that someone who is actually mono, would ever be satisfied with any version of poly. It's not something you can conform to just because that's the situation you are in, unless perhaps you already have some curiousity and an exploratory spirit that makes you want to try it. It sounds like you tried it and don't like it, so getting away from it may be the best solution.



I have to completely agree with this post.

Many Dominants and submissives / slaves alike mistake poly for just playing the field plain and simple. i'm currently living in that situation right now but like your probably thinking showing this off in a poly form is the best way to get your questions answered. I completely understand and I'm doing the same thing.

Months prior to today I'm remembering circumstances that forced me to make a decission in my life, I never told the one i serve but it was a private, confidential promise that if the circumstance happened again I would have to leave no matter how much it devestated me.

Months later I am preparing myself for it to happen again and I am forcing myself to find out as much information I can about bringing others in and becoming lower than what I was before to my Owner. I adore the man, but if the relationship isn't going to work for me, it's going to ruin everyone elses fun too. Why hurt innocent people who dont understand what's really happening or going on especially when it's not their fault? They are not the ones who are suppose to be responsable. The responsability falls back on the Dominant, when a submissive or slave is feeling hurt, and unwanted it is the Dominants job to nurture, protect and inform the sub or slave in a possitive way, in a way such that the sub or slave isn't left feeling undesirable anymore.....

I'm not really considering my feelings to be jelousy but what I do consider it to be is me, myself, and i trying to protect MYSELF from getting hurt emotionally and mentally and it is my understanding as it should be yours that this is a consensual relationship we are talking about here, you have every right to explore your options, find the information that you want and make your decision based on that information.

I dont consider my owner to be selfish for wanting other people, wanting a variety, wanting someone else around when I'm not, but I do consider it selfish in a way when I say that I dont want to get hurt again, that I dont want to go through a previous circumstance again, and then have him turn around blame the circumstance on me, and get defensive, then tell me that He is the one with control. That's what I call selfish because with that He's basicly saying that He doesn't care about me, or what happens to me, not caring about all of the time, energy and money i've spent on him. I'm not saying that to backstab him, I'm not even saying that this actually happened because if it ever did my decision would be made at that moment, and it wouldn't be for his bennifit but, it would be for mine and i'd be gone.

The best information that I can give any sub or slave out there in this circumstance is to find someone who truely cares about you, who will look out for your best interest and not take advantage of what you do or dont have to give. If you ever need an ear or want to chat please feel free to contact me.


Edited to add:

I belive that Jerry is right, if this man is dating again, it's looking like what he wants is a variety, not a poly life if he's the only one seeing the other girls. The problem that I have with this: If he's not sharing the interest, if he's not discussing the interest and not interacting with everyone at the same time unless there is good reason (like he lives with a family member or there are kids involved) then he's just playing the field, wants a variety, and / or is hiding something major. I believe you also said something to the effect of he gave you something, what makes you so sure that he hasn't given the others something to and that's why no one sees anyone else but the Dominant here himself?

Dont play the game if you want to find someone that's worth your time, and who wont play games or lie, or get you involved in something you dont want to be involved in. Whether you stay or if you leave, your going to be miserable, if you leave now, the hurt will go away sooner, and if you stay and dont accept his lifestyle then well your only hurting yourself more than your already hurt. Trust me I know first hand all about this issue. Dont make the same mistakes that many of us have already made! I wish you the best of luck and my emails always open if you need an ear!


Punnishme




softandshy -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/25/2005 2:19:38 PM)

Hello candyissweet. i am curious, were you certain of your feelings about polygamy before you entered into the relationship? And did you know up front what the relationship would entail? i'm not asking to place blame on anyone. i make no judgement in this. However, i am considering a similar relationship in the sense that i will be very decidely mono and the Mistress is poly. There are differences: everyone already knows about everyone else, we all recognize that we provide different services and have different needs, and we've all gone into the relationship knowing the position of the others as well as our own. i also suspect that i am (thank you MistressFire70 for helping me find a name for this) "polyminded." i wonder if that's enough to make the relationship more successful?

i do feel your sadness though candyissweet, and i hope you come to a resolution that will give you some ease, even if it is in the long term. Take care.




hardxdrive -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (7/29/2005 6:14:40 AM)

that rarly works.




bound2bnaughty -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (8/8/2005 11:24:18 PM)

Hello there :)

i have to agree with the statement that it only works if eveyone knows about everyone and is included.

When Master started talking to other submissives, He would leave me out of it, and i would feel jealousy. Now He has decided to include me in all His activities and i am loving it!! All the possibilities!!!!!!! :D




KnightofMists -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (8/10/2005 4:13:01 PM)

you can't fit a square peg into the round hole.... unless you plan to damage the pegs to do it. But then what value are placing on the pegs if you are prepared to damage them.....

KoM




JWINGS -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (8/15/2005 5:57:21 AM)

Sorry but without total honesty i don't believe its a poly relationship your in. but more of a relationship with a cheating man. i don't believe anyone can truly call themselfs Dom/Master when they have to be dishonest in order to have there relationship what ever type.

HEY!!! lol i'm new here and want to ask a small question why under my name JWINGS does it say VANILLA ? thats gotta go




JohnWarren -> RE: Non-poly woman w/poly man (8/15/2005 6:14:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JWINGS

HEY!!! lol i'm new here and want to ask a small question why under my name JWINGS does it say VANILLA ? thats gotta go



It bothered me too when I arrived. Evidently, it's the work of an idiot programmer who set up the labels to indicate how many posts a person as made. As you post more, different, and probably a bit more accurate, labels will appear.





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