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Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 2:18:55 PM

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Hello there, with all my Family and my Relatives basically
being in the Medical fields, I have asked the Risks of Exchanging ones bodily fluids down another persons throat. I was told the first couple of times would be ok, but after that, It is not safe at all~
If a Domme or Domm is looking for long term toilet servitude
they would most likely not get it~ Each body is different and can handle things differently when it comes to bodily fluids. Heck some people smoke everyday and live to be 97 or years old. But toilet servitued would not last long~

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 7:35:51 PM

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SORRY knees2you but I TOTALLY
disagree with your medical family:

What is Urine?

Now we shall talk about the real and truthful aspect of what is Urine?
What are its properties and are they a hinderance or help? what
important constituents does it contain? the Heart is the Best pumping
machine to circulate Blood to supply oxygen and nutrition to the every
single cell of the body. When Blood passes through the liver it
detoxifies the Blood. The liver either stores the toxins or pass them
into the intestine which leave the body aLong with the feaces. When
the Blood flows into the Kidneys whose major function is to filter and
to balance all the elements in our blood. It absorbes the vital
elements and throws out the excess amount of the vital elements and
water to form the Urine. Thus kidney balance the Blood's vital
substances and water level of our body. I would like to emphasise on
this point very strongly the Urine is nothing other than the simply
filterred Blood. It contains in its best condition only those
chemicals and components of the Blood in circulation in each of us.
Urine basically constuties 95% water and 5% substance like vitamins,
salts, minerals, proteins and enzymes, Harmons, Antibodies and Amino
acids. Urea, and end, product of protein metabolism, is an organic
solvent, dissolving fats and other natural body secretions. Due to
its antibacterial nature Urine has a inhabitory effect on the growth
of tubercle bacilli. Bacteriostaticand bactericidal effect of Urine
increase with decreasing PH. ingesting large quantities of ascorbic
acid/Vit C, greatly enhances the tuber culostatic activitiy of Urine.
Urea is the best moisturisin agent dieuratic and has anti bacterial
and anti viral properties. It has toxic effects ONLY when Kidneys are
not functioning well.Urokinse, this enzyme is very well known to
the Medical world. It is powerful artery dilatting agent resemballing
Nitroglyecerine in the ability to increase the coronary blood flow to
the Cardiac muscle. Second function is that it activates the
substances in the blood stream which dissolves the Blood clot. This
natural enzyme is found in the Urine and does not cause harm if taken
in its natural form. the effects of drinking urine that is contaminated
with bad kidneys causes serious abnormal Bleeding as a side effect,
while natural healthy Urine which contains measurable amount of Urokinase will
not cause this side effect.There are six Anti Cancer substances used
to produce cancer medicines in urine (1) Uricacid (2) Antineoplaston
(3) Hl1 (4) Beta Indo Acicetic Acid (5) Directin (6)3Methylglyoxal.
(2)It selectively inhibits the growth of the cancerous cells without
significantly affecting the growth of the regular cell.
(6)3Methylglyoxal.from Urine was discovered by nobel Laurete Albert
Szent Gyorgi. It is said to be able to destroy cancer cells.
(1)Anitrogenous crystalline substance which promotes wound healing.
It is the oxidation Product of Uric acid. I have treated 2 non healing
ulcers successfully without giving any Antibiotics by mouth.
(5)DHEA (dehydropiannndrosterone or dehyroisonandrosterone)
is a steroid secreted by the adrenal gland and xecreted in large
amounts in Urine of males. The components prevents obesity. extends
the lifespan of animals and is a possible treatment for a plastic
anemia. diabetes. and breast cancer in women. DHEA stimulates the
bone marrow and increases production of all bonemarrow elements and
lymphocytes. Lower level of DHEA seems to be related to the aging
process.(3)The worlds largest fertility drugs producing company Area
Sereno Group based in Geneva whose most Important product is the Drug
pergonal which increases the chances of conception. Guess what is
Pergonal made from. To make oergonal this company collects Urine
samples from 1,10,000 post menopausa; women voulanters in Italy,
Spain, Brazil and Argentina. From all these centered the Urine is
sent to Rome where this companies technicians then isolate the
ovulation enhancing harmone.
This short explanation about the Urine will create curiosity to
know it's practical applications and how Urine is used not only in
everyday medicines but how body fluids are introduced into long
lasting relationships. The danger of urine is in the infections that
they can carry out of the body as well such as HIV or Turburculousis
and drank by the unsuspecting person whom passes body fluids with
those whom they do not know intimatly and long term and medically.
JMO ohhh yes and Medical facts that Ive been taught.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 8:19:26 PM

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quote:

DHEA (dehydropiannndrosterone or dehyroisonandrosterone)
is a steroid secreted by the adrenal gland and xecreted in large
amounts in Urine of males. The components prevents obesity. extends
the lifespan of animals and is a possible treatment for a plastic
anemia. diabetes. and breast cancer in women. DHEA stimulates the
bone marrow and increases production of all bonemarrow elements and
lymphocytes. Lower level of DHEA seems to be related to the aging
process.(

Pass the urine please. Very informative MistressDread. Don't forget female hormone replacement pills are made from mares' urine.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 8:24:19 PM

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well I was only talking about human
GAWDDDDD if we started including
animals JEZZZZZZZZ we would be
up all nite talkin piss!!!!!
~wink~

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 8:27:13 PM

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OOOH MYYY GAWDDDDDDDD
MY PICTURE JUST STARTED SHOWING
UP AGAIN HORRRRRRRAYYYYYYYY
gets up and does the happy dance!!!(__y__)))~~(__y__)))
COLLARMEEE FIXEDDDDD SUMPTINNNNN!!!!!

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/15/2004 9:07:19 PM

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In a doctor's newspaper column, the doctor advocated washing one's hands before using the toilet as making more sense than washing afterwards. Fecal matter will spread disease such as ecoli food poisoning and typhoid, but urine is sterile. My spouse, the microbiologist, will attest to this.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 1:16:42 AM

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The focus seems to be on urine. But a toilet slave doesn't just take urine do they? There is where there could be health problems.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 2:57:30 AM

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I don't do fluid bonding with just anyone, myself.

Urine IS sterile, until it comes into contact with something - like skin, urethra, hair, etc. which is not sterile.

I'd be more worried about staph, pinworms, any other worms (many folks don't even know they HAVE worms), TB.

That being said, I find it funny that at work they will touch the door to open it, go relieve themselves, wash their hands, and then use a towel to open the door, until I pointed out that opening the door is a vector.

Then again, does anyone know what the MOST dirty object is one's home usually is?

The telephone.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 9:03:00 AM

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Erm... Just because something is sterile, does not necessarily mean it is 'safe.' I have a bottle of bleach - quite sterile - in my bathroom, but drinking it would kill me.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 11:38:45 AM

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anything in excess can kill You Voltare
and bleach is drank by anyone whom
drinks water out of a faucet every day.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 1:56:29 PM

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Knees,
Are you saying...let's see. Hypothetically you have aids. I can drink your semen a few times and have nothing bad happen to me?
Are they actually saying that?

I can't even get past that idea let alone to the pee issue.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 3:05:39 PM

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The dirtiest thing in my home is usually my slave.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 5:32:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring
The dirtiest thing in my home is usually my slave

Well tell her to stop wearing the phone!

LOL

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 7:07:32 PM

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lol poor sub
Hard to believe
that there are
actually people
whom do all this.
And not only do
it but there are
millions whom
do around the
world. Isent this
where that saying
comes in: You have
sex with your partner
and everyone they ever
had a relation with and
with everyone that their
relations had relations
with and so on and so forth.
and You know one in ten folks
have aids now so like if You
have had sex with one person
in life and they had sex with
two people in life and they had
sex with two people in their life
then it is probable that you being
the actually 10th person in that line
of sex to contract the aids. hmmmm
food for thought.........double hmmmm
LMBAO!

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 7:26:37 PM

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quote:

The dirtiest thing in my home is usually my slave.

Didnt you post elsewhere that you enjoyed taking your slave through the car wash?

Must be pretty impressive dirt where you live.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/16/2004 7:54:25 PM

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That was exactly my point Dread. For the first time ever we agree. I'm sure the site will crumble now. Something is sure to happen.
Knees said, many in his family were of the medical persuasion.
Actually here is his quote

"being in the Medical fields, I have asked the Risks of Exchanging ones bodily fluids down another persons throat. I was told the first couple of times would be ok , but after that, It is not safe at all~ "

Hard to imagine you are safe one minute and not the next. All of my education has lead me to believe you are not safe at all ever.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/17/2004 10:23:16 AM

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Gloria,

I think knees's wording was misleading. What it boils down to is that if you, say, drink urine once, you -probably- won't have anything bad happen. The same is true with the AIDS scenerio - if a woman swallows the seme of a man with AIDS, there is a chance that she will contract the virus - but not necessarily. The virus is in the blood and sexual fluids of the body. If someone have an open sore in their mouth (think cankersore) and give oral sex, there is a much greater chance of contracting the virus... etc etc. However, it's possible that you will not - because in your stomach, there is a very strong lining, and the HCl in your stomach kills just about everything in the semen. HIV is a VERY delicate virus - it dies if exposed to open air for about twenty minutes.

So, the point is - serving as a 'toilet' slave for a day probably won't kill you (yuck) but doing so for months or years at a time will most certainly take it's toll.

Dread: I don't have any bleach in my water. And I'll still die if I drink from my bottle of bleach, and it's still sterile. The issue of sterility has nothing to do with the inherent impurities in urine.

Additionally, Where did you study molecular biology? I'd be interested to know where you swiped the facts on the chemical composition of urine, as the addendums would likely contain more data on contaiminants in urine from when a person eats certain foods, uses certain drugs, or contracts one of thousands of different diseases that alters chemical composition of urine. Perhaps you have the cross referenced inicies that illustrate which diseases can be spread through consumption of urine as well?

Stephan

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/17/2004 8:06:31 PM

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quote:

Then again, does anyone know what the MOST dirty object is one's home usually is?

The telephone.

But what if I am talking on my cell phone on the docks, is the phone still the dirtiest thing around?

Sinergy

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/17/2004 10:50:09 PM

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LMAO you are so bad.

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RE: Fluids, Exchanged??? - 6/17/2004 10:54:58 PM

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As far as toilet training goes, I will do golden showers only because I get tested and know it's all good. At the same time I try not to give someone to much. I always do interviews and try to find out if that person has had any kidney or liver problems that would have an effect as far as golden showers go.

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