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love the Master - 3/4/2004 10:29:20 AM

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Can you love your Master without falling in love with Him? Or do you feel they are one and the same thing?
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RE: love the Master - 3/4/2004 12:45:22 PM

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Yes i believe you can love your Master without falling in love. I loved my first r/l Master and loved all that we did together but never fell in love with him. However he did fall in love with me which caused us some problems since i am also married. When we had to end the relationship he would not let go for a very long time and stalked me online and called me at home. Fortunately he moved away or he probably would of stalked me at home too. Hope that is helpful onlyhis.
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RE: love the Master - 3/5/2004 11:41:39 AM

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I think it's possible for you to love a Master without being in love with him just as much as you can love a person and not be "in love" with them in a vanilla relationship. However, I believe that over time you grow to be in love with someone that you love. I have another question though. I was told by someone once that a Master/slave relationship is not possible if the Master is in love with the slave. The logic was that if a Master loves his slave it will be difficult for him/her to give discipline because he/she would be too afraid of hurting the sub/slave. I personally don't agree with this theory. What do you think?

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RE: love the Master - 3/5/2004 1:56:19 PM

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Different perspective time. Incase you don't know, I'm a guy.

First speaking as a guy I'd like to quote the Who:

It doesn't matter how much you love me
a little is all right

Now as a male sub/slave

I could sub non-emotionally, but I have to "love" my Mistress if I do domestic tasks for her. ("Love" is in quotes because a crush or puppy love will do in a pinch.) Yes, I could kiss a woman without loving her, but changing her motor oil is different.

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RE: love the Master - 3/7/2004 1:52:15 PM

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sweetibop, IMO i think if the Master is deeply in love with the slave that could cause conflicts. It could cause the Master to be lenient with the slave. Which for a lot of slaves(not all), this is not what they want or need.i am not saying ti does not happen. But with me personally i revel in Msters strictness ( though He does spoil me too at times). It is what i was searching for when i met Him.
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RE: love the Master - 3/7/2004 7:49:53 PM

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I don't really agree Only. I can (and did) serve without being *in love*. But I have no doubt Master loves me deeply. I would be more concerned if he did not feel a deep love for a women he has lived with for years that tries to make his world as perfect as she can. It is human nature to love.

What makes our relationship work is the simple fact that we are secure in it. He knows that punishing me won't cause him to lose me, and I know that just because he may decide to spoil me for a few hours here or there, it will not change the fact that if I *expect* it, I will be reminded of the realities of our dynamics. He has no jealousy, nor do I. We both know how we compliment each other. It is amazing to me how often vanilla friends say they envy our relationship. That is because, quite simply, they can see we love each other. And as for the rest of our relationship.. it works well for us,,,

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RE: love the Master - 3/8/2004 3:10:01 PM

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Sandy,
I have read a lot of your posts and I have to say that I am envious of you too. :)

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I was told by someone once that a Master/slave relationship is not possible if the Master is in love with the slave. The logic was that if a Master loves his slave it will be difficult for him/her to give discipline because he/she would be too afraid of hurting the sub/slave.

I just wanted to correct that last statement. It should say, "The logic was that if a Master loves his/her slave it will be difficult for him/her to give discipline because it would hurt him/her too much to give pain (physical or emotional) to his/her sub/slave."

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RE: love the Master - 3/8/2004 4:03:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetieboop

I just wanted to correct that last statement. It should say, "The logic was that if a Master loves his/her slave it will be difficult for him/her to give discipline because it would hurt him/her too much to give pain (physical or emotional) to his/her sub/slave."

If you subscribe to that logic. That would mean all slaves need severe discipline. In my learning. Submissives and slaves alike should'nt always need that severe of discipline. I know punishments hurt my Dominant as well. Yet, I don't fear if I really messed up he would'nt punish me if need be.
Is'nt the whole idea of being a Dominant meaning they are strong? Not little weenies who can't take pain?

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RE: love the Master - 3/8/2004 5:18:56 PM

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Is'nt the whole idea of being a Dominant meaning they are strong? Not little weenies who can't take pain?

Honestly, I believe that true in all aspects of life. Though I am Master's slave, I am also, in reality, the dominant in Race's life. Even as a slave, if I didn't discipline him just because I loved him, I wouldn't be able to complain if and when be became a holy hellion. Instead I have an adorable 20 month old that listens very well, undertands that misbehaving leads to punishment, and loves me nonetheless for it.

::Laughing:: and I have many *childlike* qualities I am told. And love Master all the more because he loves me enough to punish me rather than letting me *get away* with things.

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RE: love the Master - 3/8/2004 8:11:21 PM

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If I am in a relationship there has to be love. A power exhcange relationship demands even more love. I want her to love me and for me to love her.

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RE: love the Master - 3/21/2004 9:51:53 PM

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I definitely agree...you can love anyone without being IN LOVE with him or her. I am a person who believes in displaying love and sharing it as often as possible. That doesn't mean I am seeing hearts and flowers, but it does mean love is present.

What the world needs now, is love...grins

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