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Slave/ sub/servant? - 3/30/2004 4:06:13 PM

westside

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Help the new guy:

I don't know if I'm looking for a submissive, a slave, servant or a housemaid or what?

What's the difference?

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 3/30/2004 5:11:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: westside

Help the new guy:

I don't know if I'm looking for a submissive, a slave, servant or a housemaid or what?

What's the difference?

Wes

Labels will change from person to person, so it's really how you wish to define them.

For me, a slave is someone who gives themselves over completely to someone... they allow theor Mistress or Master to control any aspect of their life.

A submissive is generally someone who gives themself over to a Mistress or Master, but under controlled conditions. Boundaries are clearly stated, and they are respected.

Again, these are hardly written in stone, it just what works for me

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 3/30/2004 5:22:15 PM

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Quoted from your profile:

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I respect people who know what they want & need in a relationship.

Your profile lists you as a Switch, so if you are not simply trolling, and really do not know the differences you question, read the many previous threads and posts concerning and discussing those same differences you question here.

Your post basically says you don't know what you want, and by using your own logic you could not respect yourself. How do you know you are a Switch? If you in fact know this, then you already know what a submissive is.

One down, and four to go! (including 'or what')

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/5/2004 4:06:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: seattleminx

quote:

ORIGINAL: westside

I don't know if I'm looking for a submissive, a slave, servant or a housemaid or what?

What's the difference?

Wes

Labels will change from person to person, so it's really how you wish to define them.

For me, a slave is someone who gives themselves over completely to someone... they allow theor Mistress or Master to control any aspect of their life.

A submissive is generally someone who gives themself over to a Mistress or Master, but under controlled conditions. Boundaries are clearly stated, and they are respected.

My best advice on this matter would be to do some soul searching. Figure out who you are first. Find out what you want and need. When you do that...things will become a bit clearer. You will know what you want out of life. Then all you need is the definitions.
I for the most part agree with seattleminx's definitions.
A slave gives up all rights period. Over money..home life..everything.

A submissive gives up them to but with boundries.

A housemaid is merely a housekeeper.

What my question here is. Why would a person want to just be someones housekeeper? What do you get out of that? Just the fun of serving?

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/5/2004 5:25:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: westside

Help the new guy:

I don't know if I'm looking for a submissive, a slave, servant or a housemaid or what?

What's the difference?

Wes

You get to decide. It's really that simple. Define it the way you want to, but know WHY you define it the way you choose to and then use your understanding of your own definitions to find an appropriate match. That means you have to make sure that you and the person you are talking to are using the same definitions before you move into things.

It speaks to getting to know yourself well enough to know not only what you are looking for but also what you have to offer and then communicating it well. All of which infer plenty of time spent.

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/5/2004 6:17:04 PM

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You could get a green card.

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/6/2004 9:03:38 AM

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OK, definitions are highly elastic and always wrong.

That said, and ignoring everything else, here’s is my take. It is only my take on it.

A bottom likes to be tied up but has no desire to submit outside if the bedroom.
A “sub” submits to the Dom but retains many rights.
A “slave” will give up all to please her Master (or his Mistress)
A housemaid cleans the house.
A servant is like a maid plus (think of Alfred as Batman’s servant or more sexily Mercy as Lex Luthor’s servant.)

Oh, having sex with a maid is not necessarily D/s.

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/6/2004 10:50:55 AM

westside

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Thanks for the replies both serious and funny -- it helps. ( Though you should see the outfit I'm visualizing Alfred in....)

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/6/2004 7:13:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: westside

Thanks for the replies both serious and funny -- it helps. ( Though you should see the outfit I'm visualizing Alfred in....)

wes/Wes

Hey - who said the butler gets to wear *clothes*?!?!?!?

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/7/2004 2:19:43 PM

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a switch, hmm i was collared by a switch before i knew what one was, and She swore she would always be by my side.but then "She is a Switch, and they don't know what or who they really are in my book" so now i'll go and switch the t.v. channel~~

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RE: Slave/ sub/servant? - 4/17/2004 9:36:34 PM

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I consider myself to be all these things. (multiple personalities perhaps?)
I am submissive in everyday life-I have the right to make emergency decisions if he is not there, but I do follow daily guidelines.
I am slave in our personal and sexual life-my happiness comes from his, whatever that may be, I would give my life for him, if he asked for it
I am servant in that his needs and wants are anticipated and met. I come when called and do whatever is asked of me.
I am housemaid, simply because we own a house.

(Wow! I sound really busy!)

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