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Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 8:50:49 AM   
Zelda253


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Status: offline 		Dear Doms,
I need to tell you something that might help you in your quest for winning over the sub of your dreams: A woman surrenders to you because she is turned on. Period. If she is not turned on, then there is no point and the relationship is over. Last night I was intrugued by someone's picture because he looked complex, intelligent, mysterious. He had a light in his eyes of humor. It seemed like he would be full of surprises for me. When he answered my note he started barking orders at me and came across as being very simplistic and insecure. I was turned off. Potential relationship over. A woman will not submit herself to someone she doesn't respect. This is a very subtle dynamic, and it has to be done with class, where both parties contribute to the dance. There may be some women who are turned on by mindless brute force I guess, but to most women it's a bore. If someone presumes to call himself a "master", he should have at least a clue as to what makes a woman tick. I thought I would just pass that on, if it helps anyone. Zelda
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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 10:29:24 AM   
happypervert


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A woman surrenders to you because she is turned on. Period.

You did a good job of clarifying this point. Good thing too -- otherwise, there are plenty of guys out there who would think that means their profile should have a cock pic.

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 12:40:46 PM   
Kinkypupper


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Status: offline 		VERY well said... I agree lots

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 2:13:51 PM   
afmvdp


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Status: offline 		Interesting...I thought someone surrendered because they respected you. Silly me...All this time and it just must've been the hair. Sheesh. Again we return the the narrow point of view that a BDSM relationship immediately revolves around sex and sexuality. Lovely.

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 3:41:40 PM   
smilezz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zelda253

Dear Doms,
I need to tell you something that might help you in your quest for winning over the sub of your dreams: A woman surrenders to you because she is turned on. Period.


While this may be true for 'some' women...certainly Not All. When i surrendered myself to Thorns, it was a deep core need to serve Him. I can say that Yes, He does "turn me on"...but this has nothing to do with surrendering ones self.

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If she is not turned on, then there is no point and the relationship is over.


Since when does having a relationship require being turned on? i have relationships with other people that have nothing to do with sex/being turned on. I have bottomed with other people that i have had a relationship with and it has nothing to do with being turned on.


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There may be some women who are turned on by mindless brute force I guess, but to most women it's a bore.


YEAH!!!! bring on the FORCE! leave the mindless part at home though.


quote:

If someone presumes to call himself a "master", he should have at least a clue as to what makes a woman tick. I thought I would just pass that on, if it helps anyone. Zelda


No one knows what makes a woman tick...hell...women do not know what make them tick.


again, just my 10 cents worth of a thought...

~smilezz~


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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 3:48:15 PM   
January


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ORIGINAL: afmvdp

Interesting...I thought someone surrendered because they respected you. Silly me...All this time and it just must've been the hair.


Oh, but afmvdp, your hair is incredible! I still remember how sad I was when you added your avatar--and it was in black and white!

:(

January

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 5:34:58 PM   
afmvdp


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Status: offline 		lol. I don't believe I'd get many submissives purely upon follicles alone...perhaps I am wrong though. ;)

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 6:21:14 PM   
subbiejenn


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Status: offline 		To submit i need to be physically and mentally turned on. I've seen many good looking Men who physically turn me on but if when W/we talk there is no mental attraction, i can not submit. Actually i think the mental attraction is more important to me then the physical. Respect is Huge also and yes i have NO respect for a Dom who barks orders right off the bat without first establishing a relationship and me submitting to Him first.

Zelda i am sorry for your misfortune, chalk it up as lesson learned. There are many good Doms out there but we have to sift through the "trolls" and "HNG" to find them. Good luck in your search.

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 7:58:02 PM   
LadyBeckett


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otherwise, there are plenty of guys out there who would think that means their profile should have a cock pic.


She should have seen iwill's! Now that's some cock pic! I betcha proudsub knows where it is.

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 8:28:06 PM   
proudsub


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She should have seen iwill's! Now that's some cock pic! I betcha proudsub knows where it is.


Here's the thread but i don't think we ever did get to see the picture from iwll.

ultimate cock shot

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/17/2004 9:05:13 PM   
Laura


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quote:

ORIGINAL: happypervert

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A woman surrenders to you because she is turned on. Period.

You did a good job of clarifying this point. Good thing too -- otherwise, there are plenty of guys out there who would think that means their profile should have a cock pic.


That's so sad. Especially since it's also true. Times like this I remember that men really do think differently from women. Why do men think a woman would want to see a picture of his cock? Do men (in general) really think that's the best they have to offer, their "best side"?

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 6:22:39 AM   
Chaos


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ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett

She should have seen iwill's! Now that's some cock pic! I betcha proudsub knows where it is.



And I'll bet it comes with a T-shirt that says "I Love Photoshop!"

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 7:18:56 AM   
blueyes


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Status: offline 		So, Zelda.....What does make a Woman tick. Everybody quiet, this ones a money maker for certian. i'm seeing books, video tapes, cd's, maybe even the big screen here.


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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 7:50:29 AM   
MrThorns


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ORIGINAL: blueyes

So, Zelda.....What does make a Woman tick. Everybody quiet, this ones a money maker for certian. i'm seeing books, video tapes, cd's, maybe even the big screen here.



I Think it's already been done. Between Spanish Fly and books like, "How to Pick up Hot Chicks", "G-Spot, Fact or Fiction?", and "The Complete Idiots Guide to Meeting Loose Women"... I think that market has been cornered.

~Thorns

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 11:13:22 AM   
subbiejenn


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Why do men think a woman would want to see a picture of his cock?


because "most" Men only want to see pictures of woman naked so they think we must want the same thing. They don't understand how different woman are from Men. i say "most" because i know a few good Doms out there that are interested in more then getting naked pictures from subbies.

JMO

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 2:56:01 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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Status: offline 		I think for sure this proves that you can't tell everything by a picture. I see subs/slaves with their pictures either posted or that they send Me on their big old harleys showing off their tattoos. I get pictures of cocks even tho I state right in My profile that I don't want or need to see them!
And so many sunglasses. I do want to see someone's eyes. Eyes show Me alot. But you still have to give the benefit of a corespondence. I am sorry that this Master felt this was the way to try to prove something to you, dear. I am sure there are Mistresses who do the same. I am not one of them.

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 8:15:08 PM   
LadyAngelika


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I see subs/slaves with their pictures either posted or that they send Me on their big old harleys showing off their tattoos.


Hubba hubba. Bring on the big bad boys. They are the definitely the most fun to drag to their knees!

In all seriousness, I think this thread just shows that different women (and men and all other genders) like different things in a potential partner.

- LA

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 8:29:48 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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Status: offline 		LOL...yes, I agree. I often wonder what they are trying to prove though with these big burly bikes. Of course, I do ask for a G-rated picture, so I guess that is what they have! Many of these are the same boys who want to be a feminized slave. I am guessing they are hiding their true desire to submit from the vanilla world. Who am I to complain??!!!

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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/18/2004 10:33:22 PM   
LadyBeckett


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quote:

ORIGINAL: proudsub

quote:

She should have seen iwill's! Now that's some cock pic! I betcha proudsub knows where it is.


Here's the thread but i don't think we ever did get to see the picture from iwll.

ultimate cock shot


He did finally post it. It was that little rooster in the "curve".


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RE: Helpful hint to doms - 10/19/2004 8:59:52 AM   
Sinergy


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A woman surrenders to you because she is turned on.


Im not sure I would use the word "surrender" but the way to my heart is
through my brain, not my penis.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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