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Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 7:04:12 AM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		i have begun training with a new dom. i"ve had no experience with watersports, but told Him i was open to the idea. i have since discovered that it makes me queasy when asked to drink my own urine.

i infomed Him the first time that i couldn't handle more than a mere sip; but He wants me to become accostomed to it, and, of course i want to please Him, but can't figure out how to continue.

my question is; how sanitary/ healthy is the consumption of urine? and other than time and practice, any suggestions as to how not to gag while drinking urine?

~Rain~
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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 7:20:38 AM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		hmm, found an interesting article on the matter:

http://skepdic.com/urine.html

further research using the words "urine therapy" is helpful.

still need assistance with how to consume w/out gagging though.

any thoughts?

~Rain

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 2:19:35 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		I'm not sure of the newest medical evidence. I know about a year ago rumors in medical circles were...your own urine is quite beneficial for yourself. It can cure sores...in some cases even ward off cancer.
But, like I said I have'nt read anything recently on it. Those views may or may not have been misproved since.

More importantly I would ask myself the question. Am I really compatible with this person?
Is he worth it?
Not sure if you've asked yourself that or not. I know when I was seeking people who wanted me to break my own limits I just said..have a nice life and kept on searching.

If you don't want to gag...I'd suggest drink a lot of water prior. THe ketones are less in the urine..its basically watered down. Does'nt have as bad of a smell. Of course taking certain meds will make it seem to have a deadly smell. So, I think it just depends on what you eat and drink. I heard the first mornings urine was the most beneficial. Yet at the same time it would be the most disgusting.
So my advice is just drink a lot of water prior.

Gloria

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 5:04:31 PM   
dizzylizzy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire


More importantly I would ask myself the question. Am I really compatible with this person?
Is he worth it?
Not sure if you've asked yourself that or not. I know when I was seeking people who wanted me to break my own limits I just said..have a nice life and kept on searching.


Rain,

This is ABSOLUTELY none of my business but... I think that Gloria makes a valid point.
I am concerned about your already doing things that make you "queasy" to please a new dom when you recently suffered a tragic loss. Are you sure this is something you want to do? I know you told him you were open to the idea but maybe you should hold off on doing anything new with anyone new for a while and sort of get your feet back under you a bit.

< Message edited by dizzylizzy -- 2/17/2004 5:02:51 PM >

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 10:11:51 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		Actually, you shouldn't drink your urine from first thing in the morning. But otherwise urine it isn't harmful, and some say it is even good for you. I don't think you can do much about hating the taste. Drinking alot of water and avoiding certain foods will help, but your desire to please is probably the only way you will be able to do it on a regular basis. And even that may not be enough. Hopefully your Master will realize this. Maybe vomiting on his feet will convince him. Good luck.

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/17/2004 10:56:47 PM   
inyouagain


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Status: offline 		LOL, too phunny Estring

Need I ask what if the Master suddenly develops an affinity for...?

Regardless of task, the Dom/me must be sensitive and aware of feedback 'of' the sub, not simply from the sub. If your Dom/me submits you to tasks regardless of your verbal and nonverbal feedback, they deserve their feet well coated.

If the Dom/me's need is so great, then the sub would need to be trained... a process that takes continual time, care and nurturing by the Dom/me. If you have just began training under this Master, it seems a little soon to be pushing your limits or exploring uneasy ground... the Master doesn't even know you that well yet... and couldn't.

If your Master has no respect for your uneasiness regarding any task, then that may be a sign you should not ignore... your care as a sub is in part your own, nuff said.

On the other hand, I've always heard holding your nose and down the hatch works... that's how I started drinking yucky tasting booze!

You could surprise yourself?

Request a sitdown and discuss it with your Master... express your feelings and desire to please, and you may find a suitable alternative to the current situation.

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/18/2004 6:03:47 AM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		Estring, thanks for your humorous reply!

~in response to inyouagain~

i actually told him from the begining that i was interested in, but have never participated in watersports...
and Master was responsive to my queasiness regarding drinking urine; and we've discussed this. He will start me off slower, sips at first, but He still requires me to become accostomed to doing this on a semi-regular basis.

also, my need to serve/please/obey is strong, so if it takes time to get used to doing this...well, i have plenty of time, and He is patient & kind.

and, however tempting the idea may be at times, i have NO desire to vomit on the man's feet! yuck!


one last thing....Estring, i've read somewhere that drinking the first urine of the day is the most beneficial...do you have any websites for me to search for info to the contrary?
just curious.


thanks for the entertaining feedback!

~rain~

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/18/2004 2:27:49 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		rain, I would imagine you could find a site that would talk about the pros and cons of morning urine. I was told that the morning urine contains all the wastes from your body that have been stored up from overnight. They get flushed out when you pee in the morning.

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/20/2004 5:07:52 PM   
scamp


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heres a response to this post form some who does drink when you strart off drink alot of water and then when you have to take one bring in a cup and let go and drink that down then after like a week drink some juice and then work your way to drinking the moring please dont drink it in the moring until you ready and can take like three cups worth scamp

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/20/2004 11:02:18 PM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		Thanks Estring and scamp for the info about morning urine vs. night urine.

i am usually instructed to pee in a cup once every few days, and i've worked up to three sips.

interestingly, on more than one occasion; i've experienced/ (hallucinated?) the bitter aftertaste of urine in my mouth...long after sipping it.

any ideas as to why this happens?

Rain

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/21/2004 7:24:38 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		Belong,
Not a clue on an answer to your question. Why the urine aftertaste. Maybe you are actually hallucinating. Not trying to downplay it for you at all. Perhaps there is one. Kind of like when you burp long after taking that vitamin? Ewww.

One of my limits is urine. Basically...in my mind I feel there is a reason why it is called waste. Since...it is waste...perhaps I should'nt be consuming it?
Although my Dom does like golden showers now and then. We compromised. He can pee on me all he wants as long as we are in the shower. So I can wash it off right away. There is no consumption of it at all. After all it was a limit when we first got together.

I realize you have already negotiated with your Dom. But...my thoughts may or may not come in handy down the line.

Gloria

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/23/2004 9:18:36 AM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		Rain, do you mind if I ask a personal question?

When you say you were open to the idea of watersports, what was your perception of 'watersports' at that stage?

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/23/2004 4:59:28 PM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		Good question, Jasmyn.

my understanding of watersports was that it was (primarily) golden showers...
this may have been the reason for my surprise when He instructed me to drink urine, however...i have never said it was a limit for me, and therefore i was willing to try.

it is quite effective as a form of punishment, i can assure Y/you of that!
thankfully, i'm learning my role as a sub, and haven't had the *pleasure* (read sarcastic) of drinking it lately.

of course, if He sees this post, that may change!

thanks all for the words of wisdom/ or grossed out responses...still amusing!

a toast to Y/you all, bottoms up! hahahaha

~rain~

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/23/2004 9:16:00 PM   
EStrict


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Status: offline 		I admit it Rain, I'm curious. Why would that post change things? Did he forbid you to ask about the health issues? Or does he prefer you to *pretend* to enjoy things you don't?

::laughing:: or are you just joking and I'm reading it wrong?

Sandy

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/24/2004 6:53:25 AM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		Sandy,

It was just a joke, and actually, i always tell Him if i've posted anything...He enjoys reading them.

Strangely enough, however, i did do something yesterday worthy of punishment...and tonight i must move up from 3 sips to 6 ! ((gulp))

Thank Y/you for Y/your concern though, Sandy...that's appreciated.

~rain~

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/24/2004 4:15:28 PM   
sweetieboop


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Status: offline 		I am a sub who is learning and I'm curious to know, how does consuming urine effect the relationship? I've had someone tell me once that they wanted me to to that but it's something that I'm opposed to. Never-the-less, I'd like to understand it. He told me that by drinking HIS urine it will bring us closer. I don't get it. Can anyone explain to me how it makes you happy to make someone do that or how it makes you happy to do it (other than pleasing your Master)?

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/25/2004 6:25:48 AM   
belongtoyou


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Can anyone explain to me how it makes you happy to make someone do that or how it makes you happy to do it (other than pleasing your Master

Sweetieboop,

i can't speak for your (former?) Master, but i can say this: it's important to discuss your limits with your Dom/Master before engaging in any bdsm activity (and/or roleplay). Also, communication is key; as i mentioned in earlier posts- although my understanding of watersports was limited, i agreed to keep an open mind and try to drink urine.

The reason it makes me "happy to do it" is b/c: 1) i need displine, and i've shared with Him that drinking urine IS an effective form of punishment for me, precisely b/c i do NOT enjoy drinking urine. Does that make sense?

my current relationship with this Dom is online/phone; and since He's not been able to administer my punishment directly; drinking my own urine is the punishment i chose to accept. Period.

i hope that all makes sense, sweetieboop.

~rain~

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/25/2004 8:38:39 AM   
sweetieboop


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Status: offline 		Yes, it does make sense to me. Thank you for your explanation. I appreciate it. :)

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/25/2004 2:52:50 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		Drinking urine will bring you closer if you drink it straight from the tap.

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RE: Consumption of urine - 2/29/2004 11:12:29 AM   
belongtoyou


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Status: offline 		Estring,

let's not give my Dom an additional way to punish me! drinking it from a cup is enough!

~rain~

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