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Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 11:36:10 AM

Mia1978

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Ok, I'm going to try getting on my knees more. I've always fantacized about deep throating, but have had many fears about it (urine drops, bitter cum...). And I have never swallowed. A few times I have tried getting over my fears, but he offers no guidance or pressure to push me. I can't gauge how deep to take him, how to position myself to please him better (while avoiding some of those yucky flavors).... and to make it all the more frustrating, he has complained about my teeth getting in the way. I have no idea how to take him deeply and maintain a good suction without occasionally bumping a tooth. I curl my lips over my front teeth, but they get very tired and numb after a few minutes. Any ideas how to fix my method?

How can I get better at this?

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 11:41:02 AM

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If you have a small mouth the teeth may always get in the way. Mine do, but the difference is that he likes it.

There have been several threads that discussed deep throating:

Problems with deep throating?

If I remember correctly this one gives some great tips:
SUBS: Throat-Fucking Questions?

Technique

Edited because I hit "ok" too soon

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 11:49:34 AM

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The "yucky" flavors depend on his diet. Teenagers taste salty. Which is why most people say semen is salty. That is however because they are eating junk.
As a man matures and starts eating healthier the taste dramatically improves.

You are what you eat. If you eat junk, you're going to taste like junk. If you eat good, well you will taste good.

As far as swallowing goes. Semen is, well I found this on the net..I'll paste it here.

ascorbic acid (vitamin C, for tissue maintenance)
• blood-group antigens (from immune system)
• calcium (mineral)
• chlorine (oxidizing agent)
• cholesterol (steroid alcohol present in body fluids)
• choline (base, part of the vitamin B complex)
• citric acid (occurs during cellular metabolism)
• creatine (nitrogenous substance found in muscle)
• deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA)
• fructose (sugar used for energy)
• glutathione (peptide amino acid)
• hyaluronidase (enzyme)
• inositol (sugar found in muscles)
• lactic acid (byproduct of muscle use)
• magnesium (mineral)
• nitrogen (gas found in all living tissue)
• phosporus (mineral)
• potassium (mineral)
• purine (compound of uric acid)
• pyrimidine (organic base)
• pyruvic acid (formed from either glucose or glycogen)
• sodium (salt)
• sorbitol (body alcohol)
• spermidine (catalytic enzyme)
• spermine (ammonia compound found in sperm)
• urea (from urine)
• uric acid (from urine)
• vitamin B12 (for proper function of nervous system and metabolism)
• zinc (mineral)

Keep in mind some of these are very minute quantities. Basically if swallowed, semen is like a shot of vitamin B-12. It will give you a boost of energy.

As far as trying to take it deeper...well lie on the bed with your head hanging over the edge. Something about the gag reflux. You may not be able to take it all the way in..but you will be able to take it further than you could have.
Oh, lie on your back..with your head over the edge.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 12:22:32 PM

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Thank you both very much. I can this has been talked about a lot and I am grateful for you patience. I looked at the previous forums and found the links discussing the how-to of it all and the videos (wholly crap!). I will try the head over the edge of the bed idea if my gag reflex gives me trouble too. The precum is so bitter i'm not sure what to do about that. I certainly can't make him eat differently, but it does help me to knwo just what is making the bitter taste and perhaps I just need to let a vit. B tablet slowly disolve in my mouth to get used to it (those are pretty bitter too!). I still welcom any cooments that any one wants to add. :)

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 12:29:02 PM

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I certainly can't make him eat differently

Why not? Perhaps I am being ignorant, but why can't it be brought up? I know you can't make him, but can't you mention it?

I know my partner and I are going on diets at the same time this summer, get all the junk food out of the house and start eating properly. It doesn't have to do with cum or anything, but with the fact that we are both out of shape and need to start eating better and working out.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 12:40:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mia1978
The precum is so bitter i'm not sure what to do about that. I certainly can't make him eat differently, but it does help me to knwo just what is making the bitter taste and perhaps I just need to let a vit. B tablet slowly disolve in my mouth to get used to it (those are pretty bitter too!). I still welcom any cooments that any one wants to add. :)

Depending on whether or not he likes strong sensations, taking a breath mint like Altoids and crunching it in your mouth first will help with taste and give him an interesting sensation.

Also, I find pinneapple juice and other tropical fruits help a lot with the taste of semen. Smoking doesn't and junk food doesn't.

I actually find deepthroating and swallowing semen fun - on my terms of course. The first few times you try deep throating, make sure it's well after a meal. I've never personally had bad experiences but I know a few who have.

It does taking some getting used to. And practice makes perfect.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 1:02:23 PM

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I think I threw-out the change of diet idea because he tends to take things personally and feels less of a person when I suggest changes <ugh>. I think he just likes to feel like everything is always perfect. But I can certainly add things (like the tropical juice) without bothering him i'm sure.

I will certainly make sure I only try this long after meal time, and I will also try the altoids and other mints to add some pizazz. Thank you!

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 1:12:30 PM

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The altoid tip is a good one, I have tried that before (although it tends to make me sneeze for some reason) and it is fun for both parties involved

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 2:19:09 PM

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I think I threw-out the change of diet idea because he tends to take things personally and feels less of a person when I suggest changes <ugh>.

Ugh is right! At the risk of giving you unsollicited advice, he really needs to get over that. He should not be feeling like less of a person because you suggest change. Sounds to me like you are nursing your dominant's ego. Being the dominant does not mean always having all the answers and not being able to take advice from our submissive partners. I have learned so much from my submissive partners and I would have been a fool to have passed up the opportunities for change that they gave me.

However, the only way I can see him getting over this is to do some self-actualization which requires introspection and perhaps therapy. But you'd have to advise him on this and you are faced with your original issue. I don't know what to add at this point unfortunately...

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I think he just likes to feel like everything is always perfect.

But it never will be. He needs to come to terms with that. Otherwise he is setting himself up for a series of let downs. And it is not your role as a submissive to make everything perfect for him.

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But I can certainly add things (like the tropical juice) without bothering him i'm sure.

I will certainly make sure I only try this long after meal time, and I will also try the altoids and other mints to add some pizazz. Thank you!

Hey it's for his benefit too! You are more likely to enjoy the act if it is pleasing for you as well. Most people tend to like seeing their partner with a grin (or some sign of euphoria) after a sexual activity rather then a sour puss pre-barf face.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 2:53:00 PM

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I totally agree with LA.

I personally don't deep throat, I've got a small mouth. But there's great techniques. I do a mix of oral with licking up the cock, massaging the balls, then focusing the tongue and lips on the cock head while using my hands stroking directly on the shaft combines sensations and allows greater control on both sides for pacing and timing.

As far as the taste, I prefer to just suck it down fast so I don't have to taste it much. But that's just a small downside for everything else.

Also remember that you can transmit STDs through oral sex/swallowing.

But again while oral sex techniques can be easily learned and adapted, the issue of him not able to take ideas well or handle the realities of life is a much larger deeper relationship issue.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 7:55:09 PM

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this might sound odd but here is a suggestion to help with the teeth problem. i was having troubles bruising my lips so my Master and i went to a store and bought a mouth guard just the top part. it works wonders and my Master loves the sensation. i protect my lips and protect Him as well it is a win-win situation.

hope this helps you and your Master.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 8:39:55 PM

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From what I hear quite a few have issues with swallowing I guess I never was a good spitter, heck if it's in there I just thought I was supposed to swallow it!
but to try to offer a wee bit of assistance, I'd guess aiming for the back of your tongue rather then the front would help if taste is an issue, less taste buds there. If it's too much you might let some run from the corners of your mouth and lick them up later. If taste and or texture really bothers you, ask if you can go brush your teeth when your done. Good luck, you might just learn to love it!

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/13/2005 11:06:35 PM

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I have an issue with swallowing, is this normal? It is not because of the way it tastes or anything like that it has to do with something that happened in my past.

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RE: Blowing without pain - 5/14/2005 4:15:45 AM

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... focusing the tongue and lips on the cock head while using my hands stroking directly on the shaft...

Yes... rubbing the tongue backwards and forwards near the head, with the tongue under the shaft (where its most sensitive), while you suck medium-hard.

Swallowing can be scary if you think too much about it. Try not to think and just do it. Then you get used to it and like it. I like the funny feeling on the teeth afterwards, sort of squeaky. Very odd.

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